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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 92 points 5 months ago

That kid is going to be extra grateful when his dad explains how much money he helped make the shareholders.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

This is such an asshole take.

99.99 percent of people are just doing what they can.

Just about everything and everyone works for, with, or adjacent to a heinous company.

Everything is immoral, including your comment since you used a computer (which was unethically developed and manufactured, and since critical advancements in computing were sometimes made by bad people, it's now impossible to create a truly harm free computer. This software (lemmy) is connected in some way to bad people, either its users, contributors, or the contributors to dependencies ( or the contributors to their dependencies, and so on).

Waxing on about how joe blow worked an office job that made someone rich so he could save 50 grand for his kid and how that makes him a bad person is just needlessly cruel.

[-] SkyeStarfall 11 points 5 months ago

So then why are you criticizing people demanding change?

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Did they demand change or did they belittle their peers?

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

No no, this is clearly a post apocalypse scenario... By that time only the .00001% will have any money to hand down to their kids... We can assume this is a corrupt billionaire

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

More importantly it's just not really true.

Money will always be a part of human culture because we need some kind of default monetary value that says you've contributed to the betterment of your fellow man in some way.

This won't go away when we have cold fusion and a Dyson sphere lol.

Despite this, the vast majority of these people are typing from well off countries in areas that won't be affected by the severe parts of climate change.

You know who mostly gets boned from climate change? Like, the literal worst climate change or severe nuclear winter. It's not most Europeans, Americans, or Chinese I'll tell you that lol.

Doomers are suckers who have eaten up propaganda meant to make the world worse through apathy and inaction. It's worsened when they know they're addicted to the internet but it's easier to not care about their future and pretend everything is against them rather than try to better their and everyone's lives somehow. It's the bane of the mentally unwell, lazy, easily swayed, and non-curious.

Get ready for the Green washing comments lol.

https://concernusa.org/news/countries-most-affected-by-climate-change/

https://www.vox.com/22620706/climate-change-ipcc-report-2021-ssp-scenario-future-warming

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxgMdjyw8uw

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 90 points 5 months ago

Sometimes I wonder about this. No matter how luxurious your bunker is, living there is still going to be a downgrade compared to how we live now.

Why not give a fuck about saving the environment? Not for unwashed masses, but for your kids and grandkids?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 41 points 5 months ago

Lots of people (awful people) have kids for their own ego rather than because they want to raise happy and healthy offspring. They don't care about the world their children will grow up in.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 9 points 5 months ago

A conservative estimate is 30% of the population.

[-] Eleanor 36 points 5 months ago

It's because of the prisoner's dilemma. It is broadly agreed that everyone would be better off if everyone curbs their emissions, but for any one individual the choice is not so simple. For infividuals, a large reduction to their impact will likely hurt them economically more than it will help them environmentally. This is exactly why a lot of green legislation is driven by global agreements with countries all trying to put pressure on each other to reduce emissions.

Likewise, increasing government investment in green technologies could benefit the economy and the environment, but for any given politician the cost of turning against big oil may be a significant risk to their chances of re-election if not balanced out by a politically motivated and educated populace that is resistant to corporate propaganda. Campaign finance reform would help with this, but once again it's a bigger risk than it's worth to the politicians in power. Thus, we can't simply rely on the self-interest of the wealthy to prevent collapse; we must co-operate and coordinate our efforts to solve the problem.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Psychopathy is a spectrum. It undermines your values, makes you indifferent to normative and empirical reality, and robs you of all compunction, until the only salient feature of life is your own ego.

Many of those you find confusing fall somewhere on that spectrum. It’s a grim diagnosis, but you can use morally obvious cases to determine how bad things are. Opinions on abortion are a litmus test, as are attitudes towards obviously cruel and unvirtuous people, such as Donald Trump and various other celebrities.

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Really interesting view here, thank you.

Looking at the groups of people that are so hard for me to understand (MAGA, KKK, flat-earthers, etc.) because of how ridiculous their worldviews are, as some sort of psychopathic mental illness on a scale from sort of psychopathic, to full-blown psychopath makes alot of weird sense. Kind of disturbing and comforting to me at the same time.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

makes alot of weird sense

it really does not (specifically putting flat-earthers together with the other two groups). maybe don't take psychiatry lessons from two paragraph lessons by author with unknown qualification on the internet 😆

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

That is not how this works at all. There isn't an actual medical diagnosis called psychopath. The closest we have is ASPD. I am fairly sure people with ASPD don't have as much difficulty with empirical reality as you are talking about. Delusions are more of a psychosis thing.

I also don't think it's fair to judge someone on an issue like abortion when entire religions shove the idea that abortion is wrong down your throat even when being a child. The indoctrination is strong. Stop blaming the victims here.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Psychopathy is detectable on an MRI and involves morphological abnormalities in some specific regions. Like all neuropathologies, psychopathy falls on a spectrum.

A Systematic Literature Review of Neuroimaging of Psychopathic Traits.

Your implication about religiosity is that it can influence moral attitudes. But notice that many religious persons are immune to indoctrination regarding abortion, child genital mutilation, and the like, recognizing these issues as morally obvious. Why? Probably because they have the mental means to do so.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Here's an actual in-depth answer in the form of a philosophical essay article about the Greek concept of "amathia", roughly translated as "willfull ignorance."

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Take some time here on Lemmy and explain to people that they should make individual efforts to lower their own footprint. You'll be met with every excuse in the book why they won't do something to decrease their own burden, even going so far as to "explain" to you how dumb the suggestion even is.

The problem is that no one wants to decrease their own quality of life, they expect everyone else to do it. The person who is sitting in their AC house, cruising the Internet on their multi-hundred dollar phone, after driving around in their own vehicle...have convinced themselves that they are no the wealthy of the year spewing out way more emissions...it's really the people flying private jets!

Everyone points to someone else as a bigger culprit, they are the ones who have to act first.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago

It's funny cause no he didn't

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

It's bottle caps.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

That's dark. I feel sad now, also very glad I don't have, or want, children.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 100 points 5 months ago

Here’s another dark comic about children to cheer you up

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 33 points 5 months ago

Jesus christ I don't need this gut punch and flashback, I'm going back to bed.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Is the implication that he can't afford food or something?

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah - if I recall correctly, it was originally with a newspaper article about living cost crisis here in the UK

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The dad should be drinking a beer.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

If we want humanity to have any kind of future then we need more children not raised by cunts.

[-] SkyeStarfall 6 points 5 months ago

We are 8 billion people on this planet. There are enough humans already.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, but if everyone gives up then there'll be no-one in 100 years, and if decent folk give up then it'll only be cunts in 100 years. I would like a future of non-cunty people.

[-] SkyeStarfall 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're assuming that people whose parents are shitty will stay shitty, which is absolutely not the case. We should invest in education, mental healthcare, and child protective services to help prevent that.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Why would we need CPS if we have no children?

[-] SkyeStarfall 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, go straight for the logical extreme, as if there isn't a middle-ground here.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You said there are enough people already.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Is it helping anybody act so obtuse? Or maybe you find it amusing? To me it just looks like you're steering a well intensioned conversation into a muddy pit.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I originally tried to point out to someone who was glad that they don't have children due to the current future prospects that actually there is a strong argument that children are necessary, but should be raised better. The person who replied to me initially said that there are too many people, implying that there should be no more children, but then said services to improve children's prospects should be invested in. What would be the point in having such services if we've already given up on having future children? Isn't nihilism counter to social investment?

[-] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

They implied there should be less children, not no children. Reductio ad absurdum.

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[-] errer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

What a great dad, he still even has his nose!

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

I don't think running out of O2 is in the cards. Poisoning ourselves in other ways sure. Turning land into desert also sure.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

running out of o2 might not be, but having that o2 mixed with some fucking poison definitely is...

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Yes, but you wouldn't carry around an O2 canister necessarily, rather some kind of air filter I would imagine. I think we are a long way off making the air unbreathable though.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

it is a comic pointing to a problem. don't over-analyze it.

personally, i like this one better, but ultimately they both point to same issue.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe the kid is Bubble Boy

[-] hopefull_cottonball@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

he seems like a pretty good father considering he is sacrificing his only source of oxygen so that his son can live.

[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 17 points 5 months ago

Pretty accurate except for the giving money part.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago

lol right? They just need to hold onto it a couple more years until the "youth" really need it and are ready for it.

That's been the response of my parents and those around me of people I know except for my Mother who just stole mine and said "So what? I need it more and money is all you think about."

Greedy fuckers as far as the eye can see.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

Way ahead of you. I'm poor and without oxygen at the same time.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

less time suffering is equal to winning in my book

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