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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 90 points 5 months ago

Sometimes I wonder about this. No matter how luxurious your bunker is, living there is still going to be a downgrade compared to how we live now.

Why not give a fuck about saving the environment? Not for unwashed masses, but for your kids and grandkids?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 41 points 5 months ago

Lots of people (awful people) have kids for their own ego rather than because they want to raise happy and healthy offspring. They don't care about the world their children will grow up in.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 9 points 5 months ago

A conservative estimate is 30% of the population.

[-] Eleanor 36 points 5 months ago

It's because of the prisoner's dilemma. It is broadly agreed that everyone would be better off if everyone curbs their emissions, but for any one individual the choice is not so simple. For infividuals, a large reduction to their impact will likely hurt them economically more than it will help them environmentally. This is exactly why a lot of green legislation is driven by global agreements with countries all trying to put pressure on each other to reduce emissions.

Likewise, increasing government investment in green technologies could benefit the economy and the environment, but for any given politician the cost of turning against big oil may be a significant risk to their chances of re-election if not balanced out by a politically motivated and educated populace that is resistant to corporate propaganda. Campaign finance reform would help with this, but once again it's a bigger risk than it's worth to the politicians in power. Thus, we can't simply rely on the self-interest of the wealthy to prevent collapse; we must co-operate and coordinate our efforts to solve the problem.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Psychopathy is a spectrum. It undermines your values, makes you indifferent to normative and empirical reality, and robs you of all compunction, until the only salient feature of life is your own ego.

Many of those you find confusing fall somewhere on that spectrum. It’s a grim diagnosis, but you can use morally obvious cases to determine how bad things are. Opinions on abortion are a litmus test, as are attitudes towards obviously cruel and unvirtuous people, such as Donald Trump and various other celebrities.

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Really interesting view here, thank you.

Looking at the groups of people that are so hard for me to understand (MAGA, KKK, flat-earthers, etc.) because of how ridiculous their worldviews are, as some sort of psychopathic mental illness on a scale from sort of psychopathic, to full-blown psychopath makes alot of weird sense. Kind of disturbing and comforting to me at the same time.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

makes alot of weird sense

it really does not (specifically putting flat-earthers together with the other two groups). maybe don't take psychiatry lessons from two paragraph lessons by author with unknown qualification on the internet 😆

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

That is not how this works at all. There isn't an actual medical diagnosis called psychopath. The closest we have is ASPD. I am fairly sure people with ASPD don't have as much difficulty with empirical reality as you are talking about. Delusions are more of a psychosis thing.

I also don't think it's fair to judge someone on an issue like abortion when entire religions shove the idea that abortion is wrong down your throat even when being a child. The indoctrination is strong. Stop blaming the victims here.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Psychopathy is detectable on an MRI and involves morphological abnormalities in some specific regions. Like all neuropathologies, psychopathy falls on a spectrum.

A Systematic Literature Review of Neuroimaging of Psychopathic Traits.

Your implication about religiosity is that it can influence moral attitudes. But notice that many religious persons are immune to indoctrination regarding abortion, child genital mutilation, and the like, recognizing these issues as morally obvious. Why? Probably because they have the mental means to do so.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Here's an actual in-depth answer in the form of a philosophical essay article about the Greek concept of "amathia", roughly translated as "willfull ignorance."

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Take some time here on Lemmy and explain to people that they should make individual efforts to lower their own footprint. You'll be met with every excuse in the book why they won't do something to decrease their own burden, even going so far as to "explain" to you how dumb the suggestion even is.

The problem is that no one wants to decrease their own quality of life, they expect everyone else to do it. The person who is sitting in their AC house, cruising the Internet on their multi-hundred dollar phone, after driving around in their own vehicle...have convinced themselves that they are no the wealthy of the year spewing out way more emissions...it's really the people flying private jets!

Everyone points to someone else as a bigger culprit, they are the ones who have to act first.

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