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Windows 10 is EOL in October 2025 (lemmy.ml)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15988326

Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing LTSC releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.

Source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro

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[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 285 points 5 months ago

You can recommend what you like. As soon as Windows 10 can’t play the latest games I’m off to Linux.

Eat my whole ass, Microsoft.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 105 points 5 months ago

Come on over, the water is fine. I switched to Pop_OS a few months back for the gaming rig and Proton+Steam works almost flawlessly. Older titles sometimes have hiccups, but so far ive only been blocked on one title.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago

Yep it's pretty easy and my computer runs so much faster than Windows on the same machine.

[-] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

I just switched from W10 to Pop_OS and have had lots of trouble. I'm trying to stick with it but from audio glitches to many games not running unless I find a random CLI arg that someone mentioned on Reddit, to my UI freezing, it's not been an easy switch.

[-] Nevoic@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago

Any chance you have an nvidia card? Nvidia for a long time has been in a worse spot on Linux than AMD, which interestingly is the inverse of Windows. A lot of AMD users complain of driver issues on Windows and swap to Nvidia as a result, and the exact opposite happens on Linux.

Nvidia is getting much better on Linux though, and Wayland+explicit sync is coming down the pipeline. With NVK in a couple years it's quite possible that nvidia/amd Linux experience will be very similar.

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[-] NRay7882@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

We need a successful replacement to DirectX for this to happen.

Look how desperate they are now for their web browser, imagine when people start abandoning Windows because there are other options that work just as well. I can't wait.

[-] impure9435@kbin.run 52 points 5 months ago

We need a successful replacement to DirectX for this to happen.

Vulkan?

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 110 points 5 months ago

This one is particularly harsh since win11 has ridiculous artificial hard stops on installation based on made up hardware requirements. Also it sucks.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 5 months ago

This also makes it easy to block Win 10 from upgrading to 11, just disable tpm in BIOS. From where I'm sitting, that's kinda convenient.

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[-] codenamekino@lemmy.world 96 points 5 months ago

Lemmy probably isn't the target audience for this, here's the steps to bypass the MS account requirement when setting up W11:

Configure your keyboard, but before you select your wifi network press Shift+(Fn)+F10 to open Command Prompt.
Type in the following command and press enter. Your computer will reboot: oobe\bypassnro
After the reboot, configure your keyboard and location settings, and click the option at the bottom of the page to say that you don't want to connect to the internet
Click the link on the next page to "Continue with limited setup", then follow the prompts to enter a username and password.

[-] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 months ago

If you use rufus to make a windows usb you can select to not require Microsoft account and bypass tpm right in the program, just get a windows 11 iso off the site instead of media creation tool

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[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

Lemmy is exactly the audience for this, thanks!

It just seems like there are are more Linux users because they're constantly bleating about it in smug, self-congratulary comments

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 months ago

Thank you. Now that I've showed you my appreciation, are you fucking kidding me?

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[-] anas@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago

This sounds like a problem for October 2025 me

[-] 737 40 points 5 months ago

Governments, schools, and companies just finished (for the most part) to move to Windows 10. So it really sounds more like a problem for 2030 to me.

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[-] Toes@ani.social 59 points 5 months ago

I really want to see the EU force Microsoft to release a stripped down version that continues to support older hardware.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 58 points 5 months ago

Yeah it's nice to know I have to build a new machine next year whether I want to or not. I've been coasting on a desktop PC I built circa 2015 because the thing works still. Problem is it doesn't meet the hardware reqs (TPM 2.0) to upgrade to Win 11.

Whether I build a machine in 2025 or not I think I will be making the switch to daily driving Linux. I am sick of the amount of time the end user has to spend debloating Windows and blocking its telemetry.

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

So September 2025ish is when I need to decide which Linux distro to go with.

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[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

Excited to see the increase in Linux desktop usage.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 5 months ago

I'd temper those expectations tbh. I've still got customers on Windows XP.

Out of support does not mean "can't be used".

[-] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 20 points 5 months ago

"Finally freed of those pesky Windows updates!"

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

Time to learn Linux!

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 50 points 5 months ago

If they really wanted people to upgrade to Windows 11, they'd take out the TPM and SecureBoot requirements.

Truly the Kinect of Windows 11.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

It looks like Windows 10 is going to be my last Windows operating system. Thanks to Microsoft.

[-] sunbunman@lemm.ee 43 points 5 months ago

As a long time Windows user, my SSD just shat itself last week. MS has been pissing me off with the constant "upgrade to Windows 11" messages that I've finally taken steps to change over to Linux. My experience has been as follows:

Ubuntu has been hot garbage, half the things I've tried don't seem to work, and Gnome is hot garbage for a newcomer (this might just be an Ubuntu issue)
My current distro, Debian with Cinnamon, is pretty good. I don't want the cutting edge of OS, I just want something that works and won't bug me for major updates every other month.
There is a learning curve. No matter what anyone tells you, you will need to at least be able to google and copy and paste some terminal commands in Linux. Anything more is a bonus.
Linux can have a really pretty GUI after popping in a few changes to the default setup.
Gaming has actually been pretty smooth. 0 issues Lutrix running games from GoG and Steam is not bad even those without Linux support 👍🏾

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Brand new Linux user and you already hate Ubuntu, welcome, you are fitting in perfectly already. Half the things didn't work probably because of their dumb Snap garbage.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 months ago

For anyone else reading this and thinking about trying linux for the first time, be sure to use Linux Mint. It will give you the smoothest and easiest experience, and you pretty much never need the terminal. It even comes with a really nice software store (but everything is free).

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[-] VerticaGG 39 points 5 months ago

Its the Data harvesting that's irking me. Not that data harvesting is new; but that i have a dreadful sense of M$' "AI" scheming just crosses a rubicon of data harvesting.

I'm backing away slowly. Dont care what games or executables i wont be able to run. Get ready for the accusations that im the "radical arch-loving myopic lemmy elite": it's finally time to run *nix as host.

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[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 5 months ago

Year Of The Linux Desktop

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Oh fucking great. My daughter's online school requires her to run "Windows 8 or greater," but we got her a used laptop that can run 10 to make sure it can keep up with security updates. I don't even know if it is powerful enough to run 11 because I didn't even consider the possibility when I bought it. Now we're going to have to buy a new one in a couple of years?

Fuck you Pierson and Microsoft.

[-] 737 29 points 5 months ago

Pirate Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC for support until 2027

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[-] slimarev92@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ten years of support is not that bad actually. Having said that, Linux is better in almost every way.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Ten years of support is not that bad actually. Having said that, Linux is better in almost every way.

"Linux is better in every way except for those use cases specifically tailored by Microsoft & associates to not play ball with Linux".

ftfy. Fuck corporations.

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[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago

Well this will be the month where I install PopOS

[-] EndHD@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

I'd recommend doing a dual boot sooner and slowly shifting your files & apps. It took me about 3 months to find a distro and desktop environment i like, get my apps or alternatives installed, and get used to it.

If you wait until EOL, you may be overwhelmed and frustrated, increasing the likelihood of calling quits and accepting Windows 11.

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[-] dont_lemmee_down@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago

I have been running Linux for some time now, still had a Windows partition for gaming. Then I switched the motherboard and windows decided I no longer had a key for it... I stopped playing most of the windows exclusive games. Since last week I can't even boot anymore, something about missing drivers. Spent a day trying to fix it. Today I decided fuck it and I'm just leaving it behind! It makes no sense wasting so much energy on a vastly inferior OS that actively tries to fight me.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 5 months ago

Then I switched the motherboard and windows decided I no longer had a key for it

The reason for this is that Windows builds an identifier based on the hardware of the machine on which it is installed. When that identifier doesn't match, it throws a flag that says "Hey now ..." I think that you still get a couple of "honor system passes" before the installed OS enforces anything.

Once that gets enforced, you can call Microsoft Clearinghouse, "I upgraded my hardware," and they'll give you a new key to enter.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Of Note, Microsoft has a block on a lot of people moving to 11 without buying new computers. This will solidify their position as a corporate provider over personal devices and give more fuel to either Apple or Open Source.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

What a coincidence. I had to install a W11 machine for a relative. The amount of backward decision in the first 20 minutes of checking the settings is mind boggling. Really? Can't open the start menu on "all apps"? Not even an option?

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[-] MTK@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

WiNdOwS 10 wIlL bE tHe LaSt WiNdOwS

[-] matmarspace@programming.dev 19 points 5 months ago

It will tho ;)

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[-] Woovie@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I switched to Arch a month ago because of Microsoft forceful integration of their shit AI tools into 11. Easy switch.

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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Hi, KDE. Can we be friends?

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My PC that I've just built last summer is not able to upgrade to W11 despite still having the best AMD components available. How is this going to work out?

Edit: I figured it out. I needed to reset my CPU settings in BIOS. Now my system reaches the requirements.

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