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As Donald Trump increasingly infuses his campaign with Christian trappings while coasting to a third Republican presidential nomination, his support is as strong as ever among evangelicals and other conservative Christians.

“Trump supports Jesus, and without Jesus, America will fall,” said Kimberly Vaughn of Florence, Kentucky, as she joined other supporters of the former president entering a campaign rally near Dayton, Ohio.

Many of the T-shirts and hats that were worn and sold at the rally in March proclaimed religious slogans such as “Jesus is my savior, Trump is my president” and “God, Guns & Trump.” One man’s shirt declared, “Make America Godly Again,” with the image of a luminous Jesus putting his supportive hands on Trump’s shoulders.

Many attendees said in interviews they believed Trump shared their Christian faith and values. Several cited their opposition to abortion and LGBTQ+ rights, particularly to transgender expressions.

Nobody voiced concern about Trump’s past conduct or his present indictments on criminal charges, including allegations that he tried to hide hush money payments to a porn actor during his 2016 campaign. Supporters saw Trump as representing a religion of second chances.

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[-] Lenny@lemmy.zip 161 points 6 months ago

Sometimes I wonder what it’s like to be this dumb.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 91 points 6 months ago

My life is needlessly difficult because I try to understand stupid people. It wears me out.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 50 points 6 months ago

It's like somewhere in the ancient past someone wished that stupidity was painful, but forgot to specify who it should be painful for.

[-] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I REALLY hate genies...

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

A historical context helps out with this. They're just us from 500 years ago. Even this divinely ordained stuff is straight out of history textbooks, the divine right to rule that medieval kings claimed.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 19 points 6 months ago

yea, sometimes these guys sound like the christian mobs from the early "dark ages", the ones who destroyed pagan symbols e.g. Hypatia.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

Same here. The other night I had to ask myself repeatedly "if I was awful at my job, where would I have put..." and it hurts. Being competent comes naturally to me so, to me, it seems that it takes way more effort to be that dumb.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

The irony being that the only way to understand it is to be that dumb. But if you were that dumb, you wouldn't understand it nor would you try to because you'd think you are smart.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Some people are completely lost in the modern world. They shut down completely whenever anyone aims any critic at them and congregate to unquestioningly hold on to what they recognize. It is basic human instinct and being smart sometimes just pushes some of these people into taking advantage of the system and leading this herd mentality, instead of taking a risk trying to wake them up.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Jesus was an anti-war, anti-capitalist, inclusivity-preaching socialist who gave free healthcare to the sick and free food to the hungry. Maybe they should crack open that book they always talk about.

[-] Plum@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

If "anyone can talk to god, you don't need all the ceremony" can turn into the Catholic Church et al for 1,900+ years, I don't think they're gonna read for comprehension on inclusion.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 6 months ago

"anyone can talk to god, you don't need all the ceremony"

That's really close to why the Protestant Reformation happened, out of which all sorts of other lunacy has sprung. I'm not defending the Catholic Church by any means, but this particular criticism might not hit as hard as you intended it to.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 17 points 6 months ago

You left out the apocalyptic zombie cannibal cult part.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

That came later, really just all the blame on Constantine.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

John the Baptist was an apocalyptic Jew. I think it was there from the beginning. The apocalyptic Jewish sects make sense when you consider that they started their religion during the tail end of The Bronze Age collapse. They had just watched all the major powers implode, and tons of knowledge went with them. Makes sense that they would think the world was about to end.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago

If Trump hasn’t paid for a dozen abortions I’d be surprised.

How do people look and listen to the guy and project all these values that they think are good on him?

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i see it as validation that religion itself is a grift... an exploitation of a crack in the human psyche.

the same mechanism that helps people ignore the ridiculousness of %religion% lets them ignore the terrible behaviors of its participants.

maybe add a dash of mass-psychosis.. throw in a huge, daily serving of faux news propaganda and here we are

[-] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago

I take them at their word - he's their true selves revealed.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

I have never heard an interviewer ask if he has ever paid for an abortion. I mean I know he wouldn't answer honestly, but they never even ask.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

They think he'll be good for them, so they lie and say he'll be good for us

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[-] ImADifferentBird 61 points 6 months ago

If Trump shares your values, fuck your values.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 55 points 6 months ago

How the hell am I living in the same reality as these people? Where do they get their info from?

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago

Church.

This behavior is the purpose of religion.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 23 points 6 months ago

His actual actions aren't important, because his results are "holy."

If you asked them about a "demon rat" that had doen exactly what their "holy" man had done, they would rant endlessly about his vile acts and his damnation.

Their zealotry is transactional, that's all. Give them what they want, and you can be their savior too.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

Trump supports Jesus

Trump supports putting Jesus, the immigrant, into a deportation camp.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

His base doesn’t even realize Jesus was an immigrant

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

His base thinks that Jesus was a white, English-speaking American who hated poor people and taxes.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

Taxes on the wealthy and corporations

[-] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

TIL fucking a porn star while your wife is pregnant is within christian values.

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

And stealing from cancer charities. trump may as well just change his name to Jesus.

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[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago

it feels like we're on the highway and 60% of drivers are blindfolded and smiling

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 23 points 6 months ago

Thats okay because Jesus took the wheel for them.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately for them, Jesus never got his driver's license.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

It's amazing... stupid people who think invisible sky wizard is guiding their life and stupid enough to think that Trump ever thinks about them. God it's like half this country gets off on being a cuckold without knowing it.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Stupid people are actually controlled by rich oligarchs through news and right wing propaganda but they think they are independent rebels.

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

If Apple can become a $2t company by convincing people that buying the same product as all your friends is "thinking different" anything is possible.

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[-] card797@champserver.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Name something that Jesus would love about Donald Trump.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

"Jesus loves sinners" but that's about it and a bit of a Catch-22 at it.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago

Every comment I have seen so far, has the wrong take on this. Christians aligning with Trump is basically the same thing as when the Christians aligned with the Nazis. They are both selling the same shit, a return to a time where the father was dictator of his own home and ruled with an iron fist. All you have to do is embrace the dictator of the country, and you can have that.

That's half the reason Christians are Christians in the first place. Fascism just makes those ideas more mainstream and allows for the laws to embrace the concept.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

They're idiots. They say a lot of very stupid things.

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Weird. Pretty obvious Jesus would have been against Trump.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

How fucking gullible can you get? Either that or they're being major hypocrites.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 14 points 6 months ago

it just boils down to him hating and hurting the 'right' people.

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Does Biden going to church not count?

[-] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 months ago

Yes but Biden is a human being while Trump is positioning himself as a representative of Jesus, creating a cult.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago
[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

basically they all want to be powerful and unaccountable - aka adult babies.

[-] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 7 points 6 months ago

They should all take an oath to depart earth at the same time, just like Jim Jones Cult, if Trump loses the election.

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