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I have always called a light top with a full zipper to be a jacket, however the people I'm surrounded by insist on calling it a sweatshirt. I'm prepared to be wrong, just wondering if I'm the only one.

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[-] chrisgpz@lemmy.world 127 points 5 months ago
[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

More importantly, where is OP based that this has become a debate with two wrong answers?!

[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

The only true answer

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[-] konalt@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago
[-] dingus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Weirdly for me, this wouldn't be a hoodie. Pullover hoodies are the only type possible in my mind. Something like this would be a jacket to me.

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Check this out dawg - a pullover hoodie is this without a zipper. So this is a -- zippered hoodie.

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

To be clear, I don't actually refer to it as a "pullover hoodie". I just said that for clarification.

For me,

A hooded sweatshirt without a zipper = hoodie. In my experience, these are often (but not always) more looser fitting.

A hooded article of clothing with a zipper = jacket. In my experience, these are often more form fitting.

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First - tone is hard to convey. I think what I said could sound rl douchey if read wrong. I wasn't slamming you.

I understand your point and I think it really its just about where you grew up and what other people call things. I have def called my zip up a jacket.

In this specific case - this is a zipper / zip up hoodie. Or just zip up. But like you aren't breaking any laws by calling it a jacket and people still know what you mean when you call it a jacket - so it doesn't matter at all and you do you

Wear that fuckin jacket dawg.

[-] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

What weirdos down voted you over this

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Hoodie terminology is serious business evidently!! Lol

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[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago

I really like these because they're convenient. I call them a hoodie.

Then I realised I never use the hood and it's kinda uncomfortable when you put a jacket on in winter

So I bought one without a hood

That was the day I realised I'd bought what was essentially my first cardigan :(

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If it has a zipper I'd consider it a sweater not a cardigan. Cardis have buttons.

(Realizing that a cardigan is a type of sweater, but I just mean it's a different kind of sweater)

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

You keep telling yourself that when you're 50 my friend ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

the ones without hoods often have uncomfortable collars, like zipper scratching my neck etc. so even though i dont use the hood, i prefer having it so it sits well.

[-] BunnyKnuckles@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago

Mr. Rogers would be proud. :)

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[-] Atin@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

That's a zippered hoodie

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 5 months ago

It's a hoodie.

[-] KillingAndKindess 28 points 5 months ago

Ugh, I spent entirely too much time arguing this when I was still in school, ironically the most time we spent arguing with men that were more than twice my age and felt way too strongly about this.

This is the right answer and I will not be taking any questions: ๐Ÿ™ƒ

  • If it comes as a set with matching bottoms(or a gold chain) = Tracksuit/Sweatsuit

  • Light single layer + hood = hoodie

  • Light (single layer) + zipper/buttons + no hood = Jacket

  • Light (single layer) + knitted = sweater or sweater jacket if it opens

  • The other lighter layers with no hardware are just pullover

  • Heavier outterwear = Coat

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

[-] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

You wrote all of that and left out the one in the picture

Itโ€™s a zip up hoodie

[-] KillingAndKindess 3 points 5 months ago

Just hoodie.

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[-] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 21 points 5 months ago

Zip up hoodie

[-] revv 20 points 5 months ago

It's a hoodie.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago

Depends what it's made of IMO. That form factor can be a jacket if it's made of jacket material, but the one pictured appears to be made of sweater material, and it's therefore a hoodie, which is a sweater.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

That my friend, is called a hoodie.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

According to the TSA, it's a jacket. Ask me how I know.

[-] RagnvaldG@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

How do you know ? Does it involve cavity search ?

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[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It's down to the material. That looks like full cotton with a hood. So, sweatshirt. Hooded sweatshirt = Hoodie. Denim? Would've been a jacket. Some sort of wind blocking material like polyester or nylon would be a jacket. I might give jacket status to a multilayer cotton jacket with inner liners too.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

nylon

Then it's a windbreaker

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago

It's clearly white and gold

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It's blue and black what are you high on?!

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Sweatshirt when zipped, jacket when unzipped, always hoodie.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

This whole thing is confusing to me.

For me, gen X, growing up it was this:
Sweatshirt: Non-hooded OR hooded and shirt shaped with NO zipper but made of material that is "fleece"-like on one side and smooth-ish on the other.

Jacket: zippered thing, long sleeves, usually made of plastic or nylon but the purpose was to wear OVER your clothes as a windbreaker and/or to keep you warm.

Hoodies did not exist. Things like a sweatshirt, jacket, coat or shirt might have a hood.

Now, I do not know what the fuck to call shit.

That is a fucking jirt. Shirtet. Sweatjack. Hoodet. Sweatie. Jackie.

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[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago
[-] RagnvaldG@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It does sound better than a jackshirt.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago
[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Jackets, often, but not always. Track jackets, windbreaker jackets, shell jackets, etc. Light jackets and coats without lining are pretty easy to find. I even have a light sport coat with no lining.

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Sweatshirts are double-layered pullovers, typically non-woven. Sweaters are single-layer pullovers, typically knit. Jackets have buttons or zippers. Hoodies have hoods and are made of fabric (e.g. raincoats are not hoodies).

You can have hoodies that are also sweatshirts, or hoodies that are also jackets.

This garment pictured in your post is a jacket. It is also a hoodie. It is neither a sweatshirt nor a sweater.

This is just my interpretation of the situation. I don't know of any formal classification system for outerwear.

[-] downpunxx@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

all dependent on the material

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago
[-] Devi@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago
[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It's both, depending on what word my brain decides to use at the time.

But I think usually that would be a "sweater", a "sweatshirt" doesn't have a zipper or hood, and a "jacket" is made of, um, jacket material.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

Depends on the material and construction by my reckoning. If it's made of just sweatshirt fleece (smooth on the outside face), it would most-precisely be called a "full-zip hooded sweatshirt." I have also heard of these referred to as a "sweatjac," though. (Which, IMO, sounds more like an event at the Self-Love Olympics.) Without the zipper, it'd be a "pullover hooded sweatshirt." If it were constructed with a lining, or from a heavier-duty material (e.g. denim), then it'd be a "hooded jacket." Garments made from material with two fuzzy faces (or even one fuzzy face on the outside) are "fleeces," so this'd be a "full-zip hooded fleece."

No, I don't claim that it makes sense, it's just the way I learned it.

[-] uriel238 3 points 5 months ago

Standard haxor uniform for posing for pictures.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a zip up hoody, which makes it a sweater as far as I'm aware.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago
[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

The tag on the one I wear says sweatshirt on it.

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