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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 76 points 6 months ago

Long term damage? Sounds like a problem for some other quarter.

[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

Sounds like something politicians would say: "Long term? That is for after the next election"

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 68 points 6 months ago

Microsoft doesn't care about you. So long as businesses are choosing Entra, Azure and O365, you the average end user can go suck a penguin cock for all they care. I'd still agree it's a bad long term plan. Eventually, people will start growing up not using Windows, not knowing Microsoft products and not understanding why anyone would choose Microsoft. But, that's some other person's problem in the far off future. Until then, it's time to pump those short term numbers up.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago

Absolutely.

I work in Cybersecurity, and although I loathe windows, I love the enterprise tier solutions microsoft has. Azure AD is great for management, it has useful federation features, and having centralized logins is useful during incidents.

Their DLP suite is phenomenal too. O365 logs integrate their platforms together in a convenient way.

But windows 11? Windows server? Practically anything else they touch (fuck azure cloud) is Disgusting. I’d rather throw my hard drive out the window and use a ancient drive with temple os than use windows 11

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

So their amazing management platform ultimately manages the pile of horse shit the end user will have to deal with. That is shit with extra steps.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Their platform is only good from the perspective of an administrator.

But it really does manage the pile of horseshit that they make. And it all runs off that pile of shit too, you need windows server to set up ADDS, for example.

Its like a pretty tower with a basement full of shit. If you can ignore the shit or avoid it it’s not that bad

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My uncle isn’t particularly tech savvy, like, at all. I finally had him good to go on Windows XP. The transition to Windows Vista and then 7 went well enough with minor issues here and there. Big problems started with 10, and now that he’s stuck on 11 he is completely lost.

I haven’t used it much because I switched everything over to Linux on my end awhile ago.

I spent over and hour on the phone with him yesterday trying to help him copy a damn file. I had to get him to read every little thing he seen on the screen to make it work and finally realized “show more options” is a thing.

He said, “I swear to you, copy and paste is gone. All I see is copy as path. What the hell is copy as path?”

Older users are totally screwed now. I had him good to go by explaining explorer as a file cabinet with a little bit of magic here and there. Now it takes ages to get anything done.

And getting his printer going the other day over the phone. Good god.

Some of these changes are absurd and they make absolutely no sense whatsoever. For those of us who grew up on computers we can just growl and figure it out. Why should we have to though?

I wish I had started him on Mac OS years ago. I really do.

[-] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm fully expecting Windows 365 to replace their desktop offerings as 10 goes EoL and 11 adoption slows in the Enterprise space.

They know the money is in enterprise and it's a nightmare currently to maintain desktop os'es with Defender as the EDR.

Shift that to the cloud and use Entra for access? It's a new golden goose. Patching is simplified and you can continually charge for compute and telemetry access. Why wouldn't they go this direction?

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 3 points 6 months ago

What's that alternative to O365? Isn't that used even on macs?

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

There are lots of Alternatives: Apple iWork, which includes Apple Pages, Numbers, and Keynote. Google Docs, Slides, Sheets. LibreOffice Writer, Calc, Base, and Impress.

[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Also nextcloud

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yup, same with Amazon and their real profit driver being AWS

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 32 points 6 months ago

It's almost like they're acting like a public corporation.

[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago

I think these execs are trying to pump up the numbers then cash out. The pandemic and shift to remote work really scared the upper class when they realized people work just fine without them physically breathing down their neck every day.

[-] eskimofry@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

Sorry to nitpick: They knew people would just work fine without them. But the scare is that now the truth is out in the open and they lost leverage.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

thanks for boosting linux, microsoft.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

How? All these laid off devs will get new jobs make new studios make new games then m$ will just buy the ip and fire them again. The ip gets farmed for free to m$. They just come by later to harvest the best of the crop.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The skills required for a lot of game dev work are transferable to other industries (and paid better in other industries) with so many game layoffs/firings at once, they aren't all going to try and stay in the industry, and in some cases a lot of institutional knowledge can be lost.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That stands to reason. Whatever games the people who stay make will continually fall into this cycle unless there is a fundamental change to the way games are developed. As you pointed out there will be tons of lost knowledge, and games will get worse every cycle. Companies don't want to pay to develop things they just want to buy profitable companies once someone has done the hard work and it's simply not sustainable.

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