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[-] darvocet@infosec.pub 119 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

… but it’s just a few bad apples. Most cops are very fine people.

Edit: /s Jesus

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry, kinda hilarious that you had to add a sarcasm tag. And sad.

[-] darvocet@infosec.pub 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was hopeful the two separate clues - “just a few bad apples” plus “very fine people on both sides” would be a banger. Maybe it was just too good.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Wanted a post-scarcity world but ended up with a post-satire one instead.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Nah it's because there are people who actually believe that shit so it's hard to gauge sarcasm.

It's a lot like how people make jokes about landlords. A lot of the people are being sarcastic but there's enough of them that are serious that you can't really tell the difference.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago
[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago

This goes so hard. I'd love this on a shirt

[-] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 4 points 5 months ago

The only good advertising I've ever seen

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

The original intent of that metaphor is correct in your use, but it’s rarely recognized. It began as “a rotten apple quickly infects its neighbor.” Over time, it became “one bad apple ruins the bunch.” Now it’s used as just “one bad apple” to infer minimal or selective corruption, completely discrediting the point of the analogy.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

It's also worth noting the implication of the full phrase. If you remove the bad apples quickly enough, then you can save the rest. If you can remove the corrupt elements, then you can protect the group overall. If you leave them to fester then you'll have a lot more cutting required to clean up.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Absolutely. Also very applicable to OP’s point.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago

It's kind of ironic that you had to add the /s since most people never think to finish the adage.

A few bad apples spoil the bunch

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps", its full meaning has been cut off in order to support the opposite point.

[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

... they fine just a few people. But most apples are bad cops.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

most apples are bad cops.

Lawsuit incoming from Golden Delicious PD

[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 48 points 5 months ago

Can we take a second to appreciate that those hands were drawn very well? Like, most times I draw a hand, it just ends up looking like a stupid blob, but this poster has gotten the shape and proportions pretty decently. And not just once, but twice. Good.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

And the shading is excellent as well!

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

Even worse. The police has both the authority and the budget to:

  1. Test candidates before they hire them as cops.
  2. Train their cops.
  3. Discipline the violent cops.

Protest organizers can't do these things. Anyone who wants to join the protest just needs to arrive at the appointed time and place, and if they behave badly - the ones allowed to punish them are not the protest organizers but the police.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

It's also worse because it's violence of the oppressor vs violence of the oppressed.

[-] FarFarAway@startrek.website 5 points 5 months ago

And, whats more, is that if your in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Texas, the protest organizer, too, gets punished for the bad behavior of others.

[-] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 months ago

Its even more true when the most violent in a protest are working with the cops or are cops themselves.

[-] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Remember when one of the OWS agent provocateurs got outed by riding his motorcycle like a dick a few months afterwards?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 5 months ago

i support this sign and its artist but someone needs to teach them forearm anatomy they kind of said

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yes! I was actually admiring the artistry of the fists and the shadowing and everything and then I followed it down to the shapeless skinny forearms. looks like they put all their effort into the fists and couldn't be bothered to make realistic looking forearms

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

So close to being self aware. What happens when you reverse the roles with the same logic then? Judging a police force for their most violent cops but not judging a demonstration for their most violent participants is what? Are you suddenly a 'freedom fighter' because you believe your cause is just? History proves the worst people always think their path forward is the righteous one. I really wish we'd stop getting distracted by this shit and fight against the real oppressors of us all: The wealthy.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 months ago

The counter to hypocrisy is not more hypocrisy. It's no hypocrisy

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I'm 14 and that's deep. Way to sidestep the actual point.

The counter to hypocrisy is to be principled, yet that sign seems to accuse people of the exact thing it represents. I'll ask again, if your enemies are oppressors, does that make you a self-claimed freedom fighter? Rebel? Or something less flattering - Terrorist.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

None of the above.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 5 months ago

google “cops 40 percent” 👍

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

google "how to form a rebuttal" 👍

[-] wick@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago
[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I'm going to judge apples and bananas differently.

[-] Leg@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

People don't stop being people just because they're wearing different clothes, you goober.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

There's two different power and political dynamics at play, you dildo.

So actually yeah, they do.

[-] Leg@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Intellectual superiority complex but no actual brains to back it up, I see.

[-] Leg@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

If that makes you feel better about yourself. I simply wish not to have a meaningless argument again.

this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
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