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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 233 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the historically marginalized vulnerable community, the cisgenders. How can a community even hope to live in peace with only 98.5% of the population?

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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

Look at all this free speech absolutism

[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Now that it's considered it a slur, we can expect huge increase in its use on the platform, right?

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Funny, I think the same about X.

X.Org should be pissed.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I was really thinking they were going to challenge Musk since it’s not only their name, but he chose practically the same logo.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And I'm only, like, 98% joking about it also being the day I saw a headline on Lemmy about Wayland use overtaking X11.

I mean, honesty, there has to be some legally standing harm having been done or be possible. By a fucking billionaire tech ~~mogul~~ guy to a foundational, open, and free part of the tech ecosystem who also relies on fundraising.

Edit: on the other hand I’m waiting to be pounded by a reply about the logo being open source. Which it is. But you know ethics and tech and stuff.

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[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Will bipedal be listed as a slur too? What about multicellular? Or mammal?

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[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 65 points 1 year ago

Don't the fans of X applaud it for being anti-censorship? I would think this goes against their free speech inclinations.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Free speech for right wingers means they get to say anything they want. Doesn't apply to others

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The most critical component of "free speech" to a right-winger isn't just the ability to say whatever they want with no repercussions, it's also that an audience has to be forced to listen to them.

There are plenty of shithole places on the Internet where they can spout their transphobic, Great Replacement anti-Semitic shit all day long, but that's not good enough for them. They need a "lib" to be triggered.

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[-] llamajester421@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when a Nazi affiliated "free-speech" absolutist buys a major media. The trap of the tolerating the intolerant is very real.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago

Ok so what is their preferred term?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Real man/woman" or something inherently derogatory towards everyone else like that.

These bigots consider their own gender (and usually race and political affiliation, for that matter) the default and everything else a misguided if not dangerous aberration.

They're like the the people Musk grew up with in apartheid South Africa in that respect.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago

Guys Im starting to think the guy who's only rich because daddy used apartheid slave labor may not have the best views on race

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago

He really hates his trans daughter!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

She hates him more. When she changed her name, she changed her surname to her mother's and had it put into the court record that she disowns her father. She could have just broken contact, waited for him to die and hoped she was included in the will, but he was such an awful father that she said, "fuck you and your billions of dollars." Can you imagine how exceptionally bad a parent that would make him?

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to play down how absolutely terrible I'm sure Musk is as a father, but her mum's also loaded. That would certainly make the decision easier.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Has anyone ever been fired from a job for being cis? [I’ve been fired from a couple for being trans….]

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I wasn't aware of this term, but I just checked it in wiktionary. Looks like a perfect normal word to me.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

It is, and it's a word we need there's not a different term for it and it's a useful concept. Close minded people just hate that it implies the existence of trans people.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Much like all words for a privileged group it has some people who really don’t like it. Transphobes in particular dislike it because it is neutral and contains no value judgement. But also because it gives people the language to talk about trans experiences without misgendering or othering trans people

[-] Blahaj_Blast 38 points 1 year ago

Something something snowflakes..

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I call myself cis male. What delicate fucking snowflakes.

EDIT: I want to provide some more information. I am a straight cis male. Straight is my sexual preference, cis gendered in my gender identity, and male is my biological sex as assigned at birth. I was first called cis male by a lesbian friend in a relationship with a trans-masculine lesbian (I think...s/he was a life long butch lesbian who began to transition socially after we met.) My friend described to me what cis meant and I said, "Ya, that describes me." I have a pair of trans women friends (one post-op and one who will never get the surgery.) I have a pair of gay friends, one who had always known that he was gay and one who was closeted his whole life, married, kids, and came out in his 50s. I had known him for 25 years and never thought about whether he was straight or gay. In my social circle, intellectual and liberal, it is handy to be able to let people know a bit about me in a few words. I've embraced "cis" because I don't think that I am superior because I am what I am. The people who are offended by being called "cis" are the ones who have sneered labels at others. I haven't done that. I also find it handy in social situations to be able to say I'm interested in straight or bi cis women.

I could not care less who you love, who you want to have sex with, how you present yourself, how you want to be addressed, etc. I have my preference but that's just me.

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Everyone should start talking about CSI incessantly.

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[-] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

So it's a gay-only platform now?

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[-] cupcakezealot 27 points 1 year ago

the best part about this is that elon basically is doing the john mulaney sketch where he says cis all the time to justify it but when asked why the n word is allowed, he refers to it without saying it.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

"If you're comparing two words and won't say one of the words.. That's the worse word!"

[-] pastabatman@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I honestly never even considered that it was a slur. Sometimes you are having a discussion where gender identity is relevant, and in that situation it is useful to be able to clearly indicate that someone is cisgender.

See I just used it.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The word was created so the official opposite of transgender is not simply the word "normal". Treating cisgender as a slur is just attacking transgender people.

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[-] FisicoDelirante@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

They don't want freedom of speech; they want licentiousness of speech.

[-] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

sob there are new terms that describe human beings because gender is not a binary, woe is me, I'm so upset... /s

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 19 points 1 year ago

Classic South African move js

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