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[-] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 160 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My "nExT gEn" update experience:

  1. Get baited to re-play Fallout 4 through the new TV show + Next Gen update
  2. Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk + Official HD texture DLC sucks
  3. Be disappointed since the update broke nearly all mod support
  4. Roll back to the release before the Next Gen update + Uninstall the Official HD texture DLC
  5. Install 205 mods, and happily play with nearly everything in 4K

FYI, most mods I installed are from:

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 11 months ago
  1. Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk

That's kinda spoiled, lol

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

People have complained about FO4’s graphics since release. I always thought it was a good looking game. Coming back after the next-gen update I still think it looks good.

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[-] kebabslob 10 points 11 months ago

Brother the company is owned by Microsoft now. You can complain about their product in any way you want. Its sold under Microsoft, you can complain. Again, Microsoft

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not your brother.

so much about blahaj.zone...

[-] Ashen@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

How did you roll back to before the game was updated?

[-] ethanolparty@lemmy.ml 115 points 11 months ago
[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Console skyrim mod enjoyers are weeping having to re-download 75 mods because Todd liked the word Creations more.

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[-] deeves@lemmy.world 107 points 10 months ago

Reason #150 on why Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout:

Bethesda despises it so much that it'll never get an update, remaster, or get repacked into an anniversary edition.

No Todds, No Masters

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Given that it was made by a different company, doing anything with it may actually be legally complicated.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yet Bethesda are/were the publishers when it released and Beth owned the fallout IP then and continues to own the IP.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

Isn't Obsidian also owned by Microsoft? Pretty sure it's just a matter of Satya Nadella giving the greenlight

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[-] wiccan2@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago

This is starting to feel like their way of blocking Fallout London from releasing indefinitely.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 43 points 11 months ago

bethesda has historically hated mods and the people who make them. its why their games have such a small modding scene

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well the updates to Skyrim, Fallout and lack of modding tools for Starfield seems to indicate that it is now a reality. I seriously cannot fathom why they would sabotage themselves like that. It's absolutely obvious since at least Oblivion that mods are lifeline and reason for success of Bethesda rpg games yet here we are.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

the games sold just fine on console, before modding was possible on it. never got this modding saves bethesda narrative. its just a neat addition

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[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

They've certainly gotten more hostile to mods since the M$ acquisition. At least mods that don't want to play ball with the creation club nonsense.

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[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 71 points 11 months ago

They actually made the load time worse with their update. Not by a little, by a fucking tonne. Going from any interior to outside now takes like a full minute and 30 seconds, its ridiculous.

[-] passepartout@feddit.de 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It took that time before the update for me as well. 1-2 minutes for every loading screen. There was a mod for that (before the next-gen update) that you could not load via nexus, bc the setup was a little more conplex, but it worked really well (see https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 )

The method of this mod was to speed up the fps only while in the loading screen to 300-350 bc the loading times were somehow tied to the fps. Well done Bethesda.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Console "tweaks"

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[-] mihnt@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

Alt-tab until you hear the music stop and it will load quicker.

[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago

That is the hackiest workaround I've ever heard lol but I will give it a shot, thanks.

[-] Restaldt@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Xcom2 had a nice "feature" where if you hit capslock right when the mission starts to load it paused all animations and actually loaded the damn mission far quicker than normal

[-] mihnt@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

Downside is you have to keep the seriously lacking, buggy-ass radio on.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

That's the classic Bethesda experience.

[-] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Hah, those are the load times I used to get on my Xbox One with its dinky HDD. At the very least, The Midnight Ride has been updated to post next-gen, and I now get really small loading times (<5 sec) on my SSD. The game feels less rough around the edges, too. Only took 3 hours to set up :,)

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[-] 100@fedia.io 53 points 11 months ago

let me guess, they still did not learn to add a beta branch for the old version after all the shit with skyrim mods and anniversary edition

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I am so glad that Irongate is being much smarter with Valheim. You can opt into the beta and also choose older versions of the game to downgrade to, all within Steam. Very helpful for an early-access game with tons of mods and sporadic updates.

[-] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

I actually downgraded from Skyrim SE to oldrim in November. I started playing modded after a hiatus after the first big update whatever that was

Everything a little harder to deal with but at least I don’t have to worry about it updating

Rip in peace my mod list: from whenever I started to December

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't understand why people put up with this with a freaking game. I will never pay money to companies that do this stuff. There are literally tens of thousands of games available right now that are perfectly enjoyable.

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

Yeah I know, the show came out and everyone is hyped because of that. But maybe put those resources into fixing shit in Starfield?

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago

Starfield was so forgettable even Bethesda already forgot about it.

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[-] Prox@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Starfield can't be fixed. The game's issues are rooted in its core - procedurally generated maps, zero-consequence writing, forgettable gunplay. They could fix stuff like base building, giving it an actual purpose, for example. But in order to make exploration and role playing interesting/fun they'd have to effective make a whole new game.

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[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Don't you know Bethesda? They won't even fix bugs that are thoroughly documented by the community and take 5 minutes to fix. They're not going to fix a game that is missing entire features.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 39 points 11 months ago

Leave Bethsoft alone guys. They're all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago

Shouldn't they just beg Bethesda to incorporate the script extenders directly into the new releases or the script extender devs to update?

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

I play vanilla. As long as the updates stop my constant crashes on Linux, update away.

[-] trigg@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

I play vanilla

constant crashes

Yeah that sounds right.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Still haven't updated to the new update. You just have to swap an app manifest file, takes 5 seconds.

I'm not sure why people with modded setups updated, I guess they had yet to learn that lesson.

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

So, they're giving it the Skyrim treatment. I think it's received about 10 version updates since AE launched like 2 years ago. I ended up downloading a modlist that was 1.5.97 (the original version of Skyrim SE) and ended up sticking with it since it's future proofed.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, I get it, I do, I love modding... But can't they just not upgrade or even downpatch?

[-] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago

It’s not that they can’t, it’s that people are getting blindsided by updates to a game which supposedly hasn’t received updates for over half a decade, and downgrading on Steam is a surprisingly huge PITA. The Midnight Ride recommends patching, fwiw.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago

They can. The issue is it'd eventually split the community. Mods that no longer have support will be lost, and the ones that do will either decide it isn't worth updating each time or have to put up two versions. It also creates needless new work for people, especially the F4SE devs.

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[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bethesda, EA, Ubisoft, Activision Blizzard. All companies I no longer spend my money on.

[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best

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