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[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 88 points 4 months ago

If I say I think it’s pitbulls will I go up or down.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Down. wild is what you’re looking for. This was a pack of wild dogs. Maybe they were owned by someone but this is wild dog behavior. The owner should not only be charged with manslaughter and multiple assault and endangerment, but also some charges for having dogs in a way to do this.

No dog owner would condone any part of this and it’s irrelevant what breed the dogs were.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago

These were not wild dogs. They were owned. The breed of dog is important for understanding aggression in dogs. Denying that is literally sticking your head in the sand to avoid factual information you don’t want to hear.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago

Aggression in any dog breed is 100% on the human responsible for the dog.

Ban Pitts and then scratch your head a few years later when you hear about the German Shepherd attacks, ban the German Shepherds and then wipe the drool from your mouth while you read the article about the uptick in Rottweiler maulings the year after.

You can play wack-a-mole all you want, the rest of us will focus on achievable solutions.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

Aggression in any dog breed is 100% on the human responsible for the dog.

Funny how 99% of the people responsible for dog attacks own pitbulls and not another breed of dog. It's almost like this is a multifaceted issue that you're being reductive about to fit your narrative.

You don't have to be obtuse about "blame" here. If you own a dog, and it kills someone, it is your fault, sure. Not all breeds are the same though, since the vast majority of fatal dog attacks come from a single problematic breed that ought to be rightfully blamed for the danger they introduce to the community.

That blame should be used to restrict the right to own Pitbulls as a form of harm reduction. Just as a gun control advocate isn't trying to absolve gun owners of responsibility for their actions when they lobby to regulate unnecessarily dangerous guns, a pitbull critic isn't trying to absolve dog owners of responsibility for their dog's actions when they lobby to regulate unnecessarily dangerous dog breeds. It's all about minimizing human casualties.

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[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Dog species don’t up their attack trends in response to other species falling behind. If pits are banned the attack rates of other species will remain about the same: much lower than pits.

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[-] Drusas@kbin.run 83 points 4 months ago

Cox said about a dozen dogs went after Williams' three children....

No one needs to own a dozen dogs, outside of niche cases like service dog training programs. Certainly no one should have a dozen "pet" dogs. Clearly an irresponsible owner situation.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Afaik the max here is 6, if you have more, you need to be registered.
Anyways this incident must be the responsibility of the owner, he has not secured his dogs properly. Obviously they all need to be put down, and the owner should be tried for manslaughter IMO. What the law says however IDK.
Maybe some sort of causing death through negligence.

Edit: just looked it up, the max is 4 adult dogs. More is considered a kennel and requires permission. (Denmark)

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 10 points 4 months ago

It's such a shame that these could have been perfectly fine dogs if they had been properly cared for.

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[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 52 points 4 months ago

Oh no, not golden retrievers again /s

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

I have a golden and she's awesome and gentle. That said, I had heard because there's so many goldens, they are the number one dog for total number of dog bites on children. I guess even a golden has their limits and a kid can find that limit unerringly.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

Someone better be going away for manslaughter.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 44 points 4 months ago

Officials did not say which breed of dog

If it was a pack of teacup chihuahuas that would be gnar.

[-] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 43 points 4 months ago

People get mad if you don't like dogs, but you never read stories about people getting mauled by cats.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 4 months ago

Not domesticated cats, anyway.

Hear about the biguns' mauling people all the time.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's because they kill in different ways. Cats are more like Rogues - you get a scratch one day and then later you're dying a slow painful death of Cat Scratch Fever, or silently end your pregnancy with Toxoplasmosis.

Dogs on the other hand are more like Barbarians, they just brute force your death in person as fast as they can.

Edit: Parrots are Bards. That is all I will say.

[-] Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

No, parrots are BIRDS. Honest mistake.

/s

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I know someone mauled by a cat and was there when it happened. It was quite dramatic. My friend had an old lady cat who was an absolute bitch, she was an interesting character if she liked you, would usually hiss and hide if she didn't. Friend brought home his girlfriend, cat got jealous and attacked her while they (the couple ) were naked in bed. She was quite torn up, and I was in another room when it happened, was hearing loud music then suddenly screeching then screaming then this naked bloody woman comes running out of the bedroom.

So now you have at least one story.

I will say I am a cat person with dogs, much more than a dog person, but if housecats were as big as dogs, they would be more dangerous than dogs.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I think we should compare dogs and cats to good pets to own, rather than pretending the choices are "big powerful dog" and "environment destroyer 3000."

After all, both are safe in theory, but irresponsible pet owners ruin it. You can't expect everyone to correctly take care of certain dog breeds, you can't expect the majority of cat owners to give up the "proud to roll coal" attitude towards their cat + the environment.

Let's just have pet spiders or something.

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[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

I bet Kristi Noem wouldn't have stood for this.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 7 points 4 months ago

There were 12 of these angry dogs, though. Not one trusting dog in a cinder pit. I don't know if Noem would have been able to handle it even with a gun.

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[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 25 points 4 months ago

Y’all should just go ahead and lock this one.

It’s only gonna get worse from here.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

It'd be a shame to offend a dog.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 4 months ago

Dog owning is a serious responsibility that people are wildly reckless with.

It's past time for the state to step in. The supply of dogs needs to be controlled, with all animals not intended for breeding being spade or neutered before being adopted.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 19 points 4 months ago

The breeds of the dogs weren't specified according to this article.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

When will we hold owners responsible? We have started holding parents responsible for their kids actions we need to do the same for dogs.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago

Owners are always liable wtf are you talking about????

[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

What a terrible way to go.

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