Dash-to-Plank specifically says it does not support Wayland. Plank has had an issue open about Wayland support since 2016, and they still haven't done it. Can't blame Wayland.
What's your use case for Plank? My guess is you're using GNOME wrong.
Lemmy never fails to surprise me with its toxicity.
"you're using it wrong" seems more like the official motto of Wayland whenever anything that isn't working on it is brought up.
"Wayland - it's not us, it's you"
Eh more of a gnome thing than a Wayland thing
Ikr
I wouldn't blame Lemmy for a few bad apples like Wildbus though. There are plenty of good people here.
I don't blame Lemmy even though the official instance (and therefore devs) is kinda sus. They even delete discriminatory comments that I report quite quickly. The thing is that I see toxic comments all the time and what surprises me is that often they're replies to non-provoking and absolutely reasonable posts/comments (this case is not anywhere near the worst I've seen). That means the people behind them are just very aggressive which still hurts me a lot even though I lost hope for humanity quite some time ago. I guess I see a bit more % of them in the wild than you do for some reason
True, but the creator of this post is worse
How so? By not supporting Wayland? Bruh
Well no, I just think this person has the same problematic altitude many of us have. We expect a large amount or work from bunch of Foss developers and we feel that we know everything there is to know about Linux.
I'm saying they are worse because I can relate.
The last past is weird but ok. Though if you think that being toxic is better than expecting too much from FOSS developers, I will do my best to argue as much and as hard as possible.
What is Dash-to-Plank? I just use Plank the dock app.
Just echoing what others said, Plank does not run on Wayland. You can install the "Dash to Dock" Gnome extension for a very similar experience (minus widgets). If using KDE, consider replacing Guake (which is GTK) with Yakuake (Qt).
You could try Yakuake instead of Guake in KDE?
Sure! Is it missing any features from Guake, or is it just some clone fork?
Pretty sure Yakuake is the OG?
Well, technically the OG would be Quake, but Yakuake did come before Guake.
Yeah fair point
I'm afraid that I've never used either Guake or Yakuake so I don't know either of their feature sets 😁
Neither is a fork of the other, but Yakuake came first. I assume it has more features, since that's how it usually goes with KDE apps vs GNOME apps. Haven't tried Guake, tho.
Hi,
It it possible that Plank doesn't work with Wayland, plain and simple.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1632841
The latest version dates back to 2019.
I think Dash to dock is used often.
For Guake the version in Bookworm is from 2022 and you may need to set an environmental variable or perhaps it isn't built with Wayland support on Debian.
You could hit up the Debian forums for a better answer.
That's unfortunate. Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers, is there any clue as to why it specifically wouldn't work? If it's updated as recently as 2019 then I'd have expected Wayland to fix this by now, not like I'm trying to run a DOS game or something haha!
Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers
This isn't the responsibility of “wayland developers”. The developers of an application need to adapt to the new API.
Also, for Plank at least, I have a feeling that development has stopped so waiting won't help. You'll need to find an alternative.
Or they could develop the API in such a way it doesn't break every app for no reason. See the situation with PulseAudio for example.
Either way, hard to believe Wayland is still useless all these years later, can't even run Plank :(
You could start maintaining Plank yourself.
Making it work on Wayland isn't simple. It would literally need to be redone from the ground up.
Damn that's a shame. Hopefully Wayland gets rewritten so middleware stops breaking compatibility for the end-user
Wayland isn't a program. Wayland is a set of protocols that allow a program to write to the display. Your desktop or window manager writes to the display and then your apps talk to the desktop that then draws content on the screen.
My point is that Wayland has a totally different design so apps simply will never be wayland native without significant work. However, older X apps run just fine on Wayland via Xwayland which is a X server that runs on wayland. The limitation with Xwayland is that X apps can only see other X apps and things like a dock will be broken.
As far as Plank goes the project is pretty much dead as far as I can tell. It doesn't have any commits since 2019 which is a bad sign.
Plank would need to be rewritten
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