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submitted 6 months ago by LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Hey y'all

So I've been a big anti-Wayland shill around here but decided to finally give it a shot, I installed Debian 12 with GNOME, and can't seem to get Plank working.

Without the Plank dock, GNOME is unusable, and KDE refuses to autostart Guake (does not save the setting in autostart), and when it works it seems broken (stuck to the left side of the screen).

These are fundamental apps to me for any decent Linux laptop use. What gives? Is there an alternative?

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Lemmy never fails to surprise me with its toxicity.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

"you're using it wrong" seems more like the official motto of Wayland whenever anything that isn't working on it is brought up.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

"Wayland - it's not us, it's you"

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

Eh more of a gnome thing than a Wayland thing

[-] 0oWow@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I wouldn't blame Lemmy for a few bad apples like Wildbus though. There are plenty of good people here.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't blame Lemmy even though the official instance (and therefore devs) is kinda sus. They even delete discriminatory comments that I report quite quickly. The thing is that I see toxic comments all the time and what surprises me is that often they're replies to non-provoking and absolutely reasonable posts/comments (this case is not anywhere near the worst I've seen). That means the people behind them are just very aggressive which still hurts me a lot even though I lost hope for humanity quite some time ago. I guess I see a bit more % of them in the wild than you do for some reason

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

True, but the creator of this post is worse

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

How so? By not supporting Wayland? Bruh

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Well no, I just think this person has the same problematic altitude many of us have. We expect a large amount or work from bunch of Foss developers and we feel that we know everything there is to know about Linux.

I'm saying they are worse because I can relate.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The last past is weird but ok. Though if you think that being toxic is better than expecting too much from FOSS developers, I will do my best to argue as much and as hard as possible.

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