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[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 243 points 4 months ago

Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was "afraid for his daughter's safety and didn't know who she was with or that she had left without permission," according to the report.

Oh, well if he didn't know then it's perfectly understandable to point a gun at an underpaid taxi driver.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 108 points 4 months ago

I thought pointing guns at people who you thought wanted to sleep with your daughter was something out of bad jokes and old movies. Apparently not.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago

This is why it's so important to have AR's at arms reach, who knows how this situation could have ended up had he not been armed.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 163 points 4 months ago

Going to guess he considers himself a responsible gun owner.

[-] ZeroCool@vger.social 118 points 4 months ago

Bigfoot, Mothman and the Responsible Gun Owner are my favorite mythological creatures of American folklore.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

I actually am a responsible gun owner. I keep my guns locked up when I'm not going to the range, and I store the ammo separately. When I clean my guns, I always check the chamber to verify it is empty. I have been shooting guns since I was about 8, and I've never had a negligent discharge and never will with how anal I am about gun safety.

The only reason I don't carry is that I don't have the money for it right now, and I don't feel I am a good enough shot. I am only confident at 20 to 25 feet.

[-] Zorg@lemmings.world 18 points 4 months ago

Well that's good, but even if we are generous and say half the ~80 million gun owners in the US, are as responsible with their weapons as you are; that leaves a fuckton of gun wielders who are not responsible.
I am not outright anti-gun, but it makes no sense to me it took two tests and several weeks of waiting, to get a driver's license; and if I want to do e.g. more than basic electrical or plumbing changes in my home, I should get a permit and there will be an inspection. Yet I could waltz into a store, buy guns like I was a personal army, and at worst I would have to wait a couple days to pick them up. As far as I know, there are 0 requirements or inspections for if you have a gun safe; let alone any form of test or licensing of if you are just barely competent and safe weilding them.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I completely agree with you on everything you said. I would say that out of every gun owner I have ever met, I would say less than 10% of them have the emotional temperament to own a gun, let alone the ability or the knowledge to keep it safely locked up.

There should 100% be tests, and you should need to have a license to even own a gun, and almost no one needs to own one. It truly is absolutely ridiculous how easy it is to buy one in the usa. I don't understand why anyone is against gun control other than them owning stock in gun companies ir the nra ir not giving a shit about other people.

And can I just say I don't get why people are so quick to downvote my other comment for what seems like no reason at all.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren't.

[-] Mesophar@lemm.ee 64 points 4 months ago

No, no they aren't. Some people were never responsible gun owners to begin with, regardless of anyone's beliefs around guns.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Let me revise it then- Every responsible gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren't.

[-] Eol@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

Most people I know I wouldn't even trust with a grilled cheese sandwich.

[-] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago

dude i have fucked up the roof of my mouth on more than 1 grilled cheese

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

That's why we don't give you guns.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 133 points 4 months ago

What a dumbass... and as bad as this is... it gets WORSE:

https://www.wesh.com/article/milton-florida-dad-gun-uber/60744321

“That vehicle was completely unmarked. In my mind, this was not good, right?" Dr. Sean Hollonbeck told WEAR News.

I can't say I've seen an unmarked Uber or Lyft car, generally they're very good about displaying one or both signs, so doubting this statement from the jump.

“I served 31 years, I was an Army doctor, I trained as a Navy flight surgeon, I served with the 7th Special Forces Group, I served with the 160th," Hollonbeck said. "I served six tours.”

Then you should know better.

https://weartv.com/news/local/milton-dad-accomplished-veteran-tells-his-side-in-uber-driver-gun-case-involving-daughter

"And everybody knows what’s going on in this country with fentanyl and child trafficking and rape. Terrible stuff.”

If they were engaging in child trafficking, why would they be bringing her BACK to your house? 🤔

“In this country you’re innocent until proven guilty,"

You mean, like the Uber driver?

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 48 points 4 months ago

I didn't even know marked ubers were an expectation. Here you'd be hard pressed to find a marked one.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just went to Vegas and probably took 30 ubers while there. Almost none had signs. One had a police license plate though lol

I think there's a lot more to this guy's relationship with his daughter. She had other friends at the house and hadn't told him she'd left. She also went inside and left during this confrontation. Sounds like a very strained relationship for many reasons - eg I wonder how many times he's threatened her with a gun etc

[-] rhandyrhoads@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Massive disclaimer before this whole paragraph that this person's actions are abhorrent and totally unjustified. Just want to provide some perspective on a single relatively minor point.

Regarding the unmarked uber it's actually more common than you'd think. In some cities uber will send you a little decal you're meant to put in the windshield of your car, but it could easily be missed and some drivers who maybe only drive a couple times a month may choose to not have that on display everywhere they go. Uber actually states that you're only supposed to have it installed while you're active in the app, but I don't think it would last very long if you peeled it off and stored it in your car or on a shelf every time you needed to go to the grocery store let alone if you drive for personal reasons on a daily basis. Personally when I was driving uber with that decal provided I chose to just keep it on my windshield, but there's no enforcement of that policy unless people scanned all your windows before getting in and decided that your license plate matching the app wasn't enough evidence to get in your car.

In the previous city I drove uber (albeit it was only around 80k population) they didn't provide any sort of markings. Plenty of uber drivers had signs, but those light up signs in particular are actually sold by third parties and as a result you need to pay out of pocket to get one. While I did choose to invest in a phone mount which is about the same price, I refused on principle to use my own money to buy signage.

So in short I can assure you that there are plenty of uber drivers in unmarked cars, either due to signage which doesn't meet drivers' needs or a lack of any signage provided by uber.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

For the sticker thing, we had this solution waaaaaaay back in the day when I was in college...

Parking sticker had to be displayed, but if you didn't want to permanently mount it to one car, you did this:

Take the lid off a casette tape case, put the sticker on that, put the lid on the dashboard. Take it with you when you don't need it.

I guess nowadays you'd use the lid off a CD case. :)

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 116 points 4 months ago

Its a strange kidnaper that drops their victim off at home.

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

He crossed the line from protector to posseser is my wild guess. What a weirdo.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 98 points 4 months ago

No wonder the daughter leaves the house without his permission or knowledge. Hes a fucking lunatic.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 4 months ago

Probably not an amazing parent if his 13yo daughter is sneaking out to do God knows what. I get being upset, but I'm sure you could talk to the Uber driver or God forbid your own daughter to figure out where she's been.

wtf happened to simply talking to people?

Poor daughter. I hope she reminds daddy later on why she does never visit.

[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When you have a gun, especially a "manly" gun like an AR-15, ~~you~~ some people start having intrusive thoughts and desire to use it.

Same with police. If you dress up for war and talk up an us/them mentality eventually it boils over to what we have today. Many cops (not all) are just playing dress-up so they can play war.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

I’ve [fired a gun] a lot in movies, but there are too many guns in the real world. I know people with guns, and they always say the same thing. “If somebody breaks into my house, I have to be able to defend myself.” But what they’re really saying is, “I hope somebody breaks into my house so I can use this thing.” It’s so wrong.

Christopher Walken

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Wow I didn't consider this at all. When I consider my own gun ownership and acquiring a pistol or rifle, I've literally never thought, "but what if I start itching to use it." I'm more concerned with "where the fuck would I keep this away from little hands, with ammo locked somewhere else, in a practical way to go grab it all and assemble between hearing an intruder and interfacing with them.. okay, this is dumb. I'm not getting guns"

[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is why you wouldn't do what this guy did.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. He took his AR-15 and drove half an hour to "protect businesses" that he had no stake in. He armed himself and then deliberately embroiled himself in a tense, riotous situation. While he might not have done anything technically illegal, he was clearly spoiling for an opportunity to brandish and use that weapon.

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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

It's the escalation of fear in the US. We're force fed fear by the news, media, and Hollywood. Everything is tension and violence.

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[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

was the driver...non-white perhaps?

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Not sure. But for all the talk about how antiwoman these people are they are pretty antiman too and assume any man is a danger to them. Would help us a lot of we looked at it that way, but we don't.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

The young female was still in the vehicle when she saw her father run up to the driver with an AR-15 in hand and force him to the ground, according to an arrest report.

[-] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 4 months ago

You just know he’s been waiting for a chance to play Seal Team Six for awhile now.

[-] malloc@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Some gun owners look for any reason to use their gun. Smh.

Send these idiots off to fight a war. They will have all the chances to use their gun. most will probably be better off used as sandbags

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 37 points 4 months ago

The ONLY ONLY ONLY WAY to PREVENT this is if the CAB DRIVER SHOT the man BEFORE He could do this!

[-] SnotFlickerman 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Needs to have his fuckin kids taken from him, if they're not yet adults. Psychopath.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 4 months ago

Lose Your Right To Own Firearms And Surrender A Few Years Of Your Incredibly Short Life In One Easy Step!

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago

Pfft. This is Florida, Desantis is going to make him attorney general within the week.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago

I wish this were true in practice.

I have been dealing with a crazy ex-friend who as it turns out is a felon who was already dinged for gun possession from a previous felony and now that I have new evidence of it happening again the police do not care at all, even though he harasses me constantly from different phone numbers every day.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Wasn’t there a post just yesterday about a study saying people are more apprehensive of their neighbors when their neighbors have this type of gun?

Yeah, this is why.

And yeah yeah yeah, any random crazy person could have any random gun. But when you see your neighbor loading up with these guns you kinda know they are extra crazy.

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

I guarantee you the ar-15 owner is a Fox News watcher. It would explain his paranoia and fear of strangers.

[-] PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Are these people living in real dangerous areas or are they just convinced any unexpected car entering their driveway is out to murder them?

Second similar article in a short period, the other was a pizza delivery that went to the wrong address and got shot at.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

Reading between the lines here, it sounds like what happened is the daughter left the house without permission and that pissed off daddy. So he decided to wait by the door with his gun until she came home and then shove a gun into the face of whatever guy dropped her off. I guess he forgot Uber exists. He probably thought a friend or boyfriend was fropping her off.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

They THINK they live in a dangerous place. What they don't understand is it's technically true. They are the danger to the neighborhood.

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