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WASHINGTON (AP) — The federal judge in Florida presiding over the classified documents prosecution of former President Donald Trump has canceled the May 20 trial date, postponing it indefinitely.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 239 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It must be nice to live in a world where you appoint your own judge. It’s time for Smith to take action. A judge can be removed in “any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.” This is not impartiality.

https://casetext.com/statute/united-states-code/title-28-judiciary-and-judicial-procedure/part-i-organization-of-courts/chapter-21-general-provisions-applicable-to-courts-and-judges/section-455-disqualification-of-justice-judge-or-magistrate-judge

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago

At this point she should be considered an accessory to his crimes.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

The judges impartiality is in question. The judge is demonstrating partiality to one side of the case.

Impartiality would imply that she's not partial to one side or the other when she's clearly favoring the defendant.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

That is correct. I corrected my error.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 108 points 8 months ago
[-] Bipta@kbin.social 31 points 8 months ago

He chose the judge for where he moved to commit the crimes... We shouldn't expect anything less.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 104 points 8 months ago

If she doesn't get removed, next Republican president will make her a Supreme Court Justice.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 85 points 8 months ago

Cannon was appointed by Trump and people are surprised that this happened

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

While that may explain a lack of impartiality, it doesn’t justify it. She’s held to the same standard as any other judge. All the more reason Smith should file a motion for recusal.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Just because something is supposed to happen does not mean that it will. By all rights Trump should have been kicked out of office and be sitting in jail right now but he isnt. Just like Nixon and a whole cadre of others that slithered away without facing any real consequences.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Just because things that should have happened and didn't, doesn't mean this time it won't. This judge may face repercussions. It may not be any that impact the trump case though

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Id love to be wrong here but Trump has been impeached twice (which did jack shit because the republicans in the senate would have had to help convict him) and the only real consequences for what hes done were in civil trials and even that was monetary. They didnt even make him pay the bail bond he was initially "required" to pay. He's been threatened with consequences for contempt of court over a dozen times now.

Unfortunately the best predictor of the future is the past and the past hasnt laid a hand on him.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Oh sure sure. I'm saying this JUDGE may face repercussions.

Trump ? Idk I'm hanging on a prayer as the song says.

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

She’s held to the same standard as any other judge.

which seems to be no standard at all...

All the more reason Smith should file a motion for recusal.

yet he inexplicably does not... hmm I wonder

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

He has not, but while her actions have been unconventional, she’s toed the line a bit when challenged. I’m hoping that removing the case from the calendar entirely is what pushes Smith to act.

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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Who is surprised by this?

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[-] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is evidence # 37586682 that all MAGA folks are Russian assets, doing their job to destroy the US from within. Because its textbook ruling as in Russia.

Forget about the hush money, this was far more a priority as it is related to national security. Now the thugs of this world know they have carte blanche with trump. This treasonous PoS should rot in a cell for this.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

I totally agree with the importance of this case. It’s the most concerning in my opinion. There is testimony that Trump divulged classified information to Russian intelligence, as well as having sold classified submarine schematics. This case needs to be heard prior to the election, as it’s directly relevant to charging him with access to this information for a second term.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

So Americans... at what point do you finally realize you have a two tier legal system and actually act on it?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

It’s by the design of capitalism. If you have more money, you can afford better attorneys and appeals. Trump is bringing the invisible third-tier to light with this case, having appointed the judge in 2020 that’s now presiding over his case.

[-] n0m4n@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Our legal system has 4 tiers of justice. If you are poor, a person of color or of another lowly respected group, you are too many times presumed guilty.

If you are working class to middle class, and can afford a decent lawyer, you get a middling level of justice. The better that you are able to differentiate yourself from the poor, and appear to look innocent, the better your outcome.

When you enter actual wealth, you can afford to put off trials, get counsel that can enact intensive clogging of the justice system. Prosecutors will be using inordinate resources to try a case and will plea bargain to ridiculous levels to be able to function for the rest of their duties. There is some justice in that what is spent on lawyers will meet or exceed the fines that they may have received otherwise.

The highest tier can always take their money elsewhere. They can purchase citizenship to other countries, including those without extradition, and are nations to themselves. The last two levels are either somewhat above the law, or completely exempt from the rule of law.

What is new is that members of a political party are seen as exempt from law, and that a ruler is exempt from law for life.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Can her and get a real judge

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

"Judge appointed by Trump cancels trial date for Trump's classified documents case".

AP news needs to start fucking calling it how it really is.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Corrupt Cunt

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

For those who are interested:

The judge's reasoning here is that she has a large, backlogged docket of pre trial motions to clear relating to handling evidence that is itself classified at trial.

And she can't really estimate how long it's going to take to resolve all those issues.

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 49 points 8 months ago

Funny how there’s always a valid reason and it just so happens to always favor the orange turnip.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

If you make the rules complicated enough, you can always find a way to justify anything. This is the cornerstone of the modern legal system.

[-] resin85@lemmy.ca 26 points 8 months ago

Pretrial motions that she is responsible for adjudicating. She even told trump's lawyers to take a slower approach on the motions, telling them to file them one by one instead of all at once. Source

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Great. Let’s just move the case to a judge that’s not so busy. Lol

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

Sure is a fucking shame all those judge positions were held unfilled so there is such a backlog.

I wonder who did that and why.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

If the judge can't keep her calendar under control she's incompetent and shouldn't be on the bench. If she's not even willing to extract time estimates from counsel then she's abdicating and should be removed from office.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 8 months ago

I don't understand why we would want to prosecute crimes. /s

This judge is a hero! /s

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

It does kind of make sense since the same lawyers and the same defendant are stuck in a criminal trial in New York until June.

It's not like they can apparate between New York and Florida.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If only Trump had some kind of way to travel across the country to the places he wants to or is required to be......

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Doesn't work if you need to be in two places at the same time.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago

EXACTLY! And I'm SURE if a Poor Criminal did so many Crimes they were needed in multiple court rooms at the same time the courts would do the EXACT SAME THING!

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 31 points 8 months ago

The mental gymnastics are unreal

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

It's not gymnastics.

In a criminal case, presence is mandatory.

So how do you expect a criminal defendant to appear in two different courthouses at the same time?

Let's finish the NY trial, then he can go on trial somewhere else while waiting on sentencing in NY.

Court #2 can give him a release to attend sentencing then work with that prison system so he can appear in court #2.

Estimates are the NY case should be wrapped up somewhere around the first week in June.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Presence is possible just like campaigning is and hanging out at races. Which one should go first when one is facing multiple trials?

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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Do you practice law in federal court? Not trying to be an asshole, I'm really asking.

I've worked misdemeanors and felonies in a trial court and in both instances, remote appearances were allowed except when the party is testifying. Frankly it sounds fucking ridiculous that they would be forced to show up for anything but trial considering how unlikely it is that Trump does time before sentencing.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

You probably shouldn’t commit crimes in multiple venues if you don’t want to travel to them for court.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

He’s got a giant airplane with his name painted in the side. I’m sure he could figure something out.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

lol people who aren’t Trump have this happen but you wouldn’t care about that

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