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[-] loo@lemmy.world 461 points 6 months ago

We are still learning what is best for PC players

More like

We are constantly limit-testing what level of exploitation our players can endure

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 99 points 6 months ago

It's weird how collective action works so well but they only choose to do it for this linking requirement. You could get the rootkits gone as well, gamers.

[-] loo@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Most people don't know what they're installing or don't care about their privacy, which is why there's not enough people rising up against kernel level AC's. Also, not being able to play until you create an account is much more upsetting to most people, than just clicking 'update' in League of Legends.

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[-] Guru_Insights99@lemm.ee 55 points 6 months ago

Brooooo this victory is an absolute game-changer for us die-hard Xbox fans, and it's downright exhilarating! Sony's constant blunders pale in comparison to the countless triumphs of team Xbox, and this might just be the knockout blow that finally converts those Lamestationers to our side. Brace yourselves for an epic shift as the unrivaled supremacy of our console dazzles and dominates, pulling every gamer into its unstoppable vortex of pure excitement and adrenaline-fueled gaming bliss!👊👊

[-] WoodenDing@lemm.ee 47 points 6 months ago

Whoa, this gave me some late 2000s nostalgia.

[-] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 21 points 6 months ago

Great shitpost!

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[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 256 points 6 months ago

This shows the power of steam reviews with it being driven by the actual community. People tried to downplay and belittle its effectiveness, but it being front and center on the store page does have more impact than there would be without steam reviews. If there were no steam reviews the PSN requirement would have been pushed through with it being easier to ignore some random internet comments on social media than a store page.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 145 points 6 months ago

Reviews aren't pointless, but their impact only goes so far. I am assuming the massive amount of refunds had more to do with it, tbh.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 108 points 6 months ago

I suspect someone in accounting ran the numbers and decided they stand to lose more to reduced microtransaction sales than they would have gained via selling scraped data.

Though I agreed with you. It's still a win, but we have to be careful not to conflate this with Sony "caring".

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 29 points 6 months ago

I still think the biggest reason why they wanted to push their shitty platform is to artificially push player numbers. "Look how many people use our scam network, see?"
Now the hilarious part is that hopefully someone has to explain why people go these lengths, just to not join their shitty service.

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[-] honey_im_meat_grinding 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a good reminder that collective/democratic bargaining works. It's about time we bring back unions and cooperatives.

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[-] _eHM@programming.dev 212 points 6 months ago

Negative reviews should remain until the purchase restrictions put in place on Steam for non-PSN countries have been reverted.

Until then this looks like a temporary move for damage control and they'll try this again when refunds are less likely and wont be from restricted countries.

https://steamdb.info/sub/137730/history/?changeid=23416542

Democracy has not won yet.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago

There was a theory that the purchase restrictions were put in place by Valve, not Sony (because those countries couldn’t make an account without violating TOS). If so, Valve might shortly remove the restrictions.

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[-] poleslav@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Honestly I’m keeping my negative review permanent. The game is great and I enjoy it, but besides a temporary back lash I want the sting to stick around to hopefully teach companies about fucking around and finding out.

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[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 148 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"We're still learning what is best for PC players"

Well PlayStation staff member, it definitely isn't having people create another account when they already have a Steam account.

[-] best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works 99 points 6 months ago

Also gaming on a PC is 40 years old, what do they still have to learn?

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 127 points 6 months ago

How much less bullshit PC players are willing to put up with compared to their console counterparts, apparently.

[-] aksdb@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago

Uhhhh, people install shit like Vanguard just so that they can keep having their mother insulted in the ingame chat.

And many people put up with cascades of different lauchers (and accounts).

So I am glad that there was some push back this time, but it's not like there would be some sane baseline of PC players in that regard.

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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 142 points 6 months ago

Just another nail to the bootlicker's coffin of "review bombing does nothing".

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 32 points 6 months ago

God I hate bootlickers. Fuck em.

[-] Surreal@programming.dev 32 points 6 months ago

Review bombing and mass refunding too. Hit them where it hurts

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 123 points 6 months ago

We're still learning what is best for PC players

We'll keep you updated on future plans

Behind the scenes coming up with the future plans:

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 104 points 6 months ago

Getting abusive parent vibes from the language of Sony's post.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 65 points 6 months ago

Corporate PR speak always sounds cringe and I despise it. Just be humans you fucking pricks.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago

Tbf, I've seen what happens to indies when they're just humans in how they talk to their customers/fans. HR speak exists for a reason unfortunately

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 99 points 6 months ago

Glorious Victory ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[-] Zimroxo@kbin.social 27 points 6 months ago

Major Order Completed! +50 Medals

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 86 points 6 months ago

For now... 🖕🏽 They worded that so weasely, they're just waiting for the storm to pass and for Legal to come up with some compelling reason why they're totally "obligated" to make it happen, "hands tied" "so sorry" and all that.

Fuck Sony. They made this SOP way back when, and there's no way they let this stop them forever. It's all about profit, not what "we" want.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 86 points 6 months ago

Where are the: "just make an account bro" people now? Probably pre ordering skyrim the definite edition

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'd imagine some of them are here:

(edit: forgot to un-dox the user)

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was one of them to begin with but once I found out about the whole thing with people of certain countries not able to have an account even though they had already bought the game and were even previously able to play are now locked out, then I was on board.

I'm not against just making accounts, I must have thousands across the internet, what would be one more if I hadn't already had a PSN account.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 28 points 6 months ago

what would be one more if I hadn’t already had a PSN account.

One more attack vector to gain access to all your other accounts across the internet.

[-] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Using a password manager would avoid this. Everyone should ideally use unique passwords per service, that way a single account can't compromise the others.

The loss of personal data however is fricking annoying. If a company has no legitimate reason, I avoid signing up to them.

Looking at you Nvidia, Razar, etc...

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 6 months ago

"Sorry, we'll have to do it in a few months again to see if you still can mobilize this much".

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[-] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 6 months ago

Cyberbullying works 🎉

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

This has nothing to do with the shitstorm (it mostly hit Arrowhead anyway), and I think the review bombing didn’t affect their decision making that much. What I think happened was, Sony saw the massive refunds. They got hit right into the wallet 😩

This makes me smile.

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 36 points 6 months ago

The fact that they specifically mention that date makes me think they're simply pushing the date back

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[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 33 points 6 months ago

This has the "fuck you" energy without the actual word

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[-] Huschke@programming.dev 32 points 6 months ago

OK now they can go ahead with plan B where they allow you to link your PSN account to get some super cool cosmetic. I wonder what the reaction of the consumers will be then.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 20 points 6 months ago

I think that's entirely fair and similar to store loyalty cards. You get something in exchange for your datas at least.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Have they reinstated the games back in the 177 countries they delisted it in? Can those people who paid for the game still play it?

[-] TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: The access hadn't been removed yet, as the update that would enable account linking wasn't pushed yet. As for the Steam side, I'm pretty sure people who already had the game installed should've had access still, although updates and general unsureness definitely could be obstacles. With this tweet, however, the update is no longer coming, and were just waiting for Sony/Valve to lift the selling/installing restrictions in those countries.

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[-] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 months ago

Nice! Guess I can add it back to my wishlist and consider buying it soon! Been holding off on it too long

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

So, someone in my Discord channel posted a tweet that maybe alters perspective a bit;

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575881390999207956/1236869629008412714/not-surprised-but-damn-v0-jjr7xh7eqlyc1.png?ex=663a3cdb&is=6638eb5b&hm=3f4ff94b3a29dceb2e973e1e61abcf84c92220571d32a7b05c2966b74ccb241b&

To summarize or if the link breaks, one of the devs “knew beforehand” they’d have to require PSN accounts post launch, but disabled them for a smooth launch. That’s interesting, but as long as Sony was acting as publisher I feel like the blame still goes on them for selling the game to non-PSN countries initially.

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