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[-] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 4 months ago

"The report detailed how the user managed to leak DNS queries when disabling and enabling VPN while having “Block connections without VPN” on."

Not to diminish the severity of the issue but I can't imagine this being the factor that pushes the average person to ios over android.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure of anyone who switches from iOS. Once you are in the ecosystem they won't let you leave.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why is this stupidity repeated ad nauseum? I've successfully switched from iOS to Android and back to iOS again without any hindrance.

It's not any different from switching from windows to Linux.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Then why can't I use an Apple watch with anything but Apple products? Why do I need a Mac to create iOS apps?

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

If you just have an iPhone and nothing else and treat it like a smart phone it is very easy to migrate over to android and vice versa. If you get invested in the apple ecosystem it might be hard to leave or use some other products that are gimped without an iPhone

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

Third party products will not work well with an iPhone as Apple makes sure that there products work best. Additionally, iphones have very bad SMS and MMS support.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Source on bad sms and mms support? I use an iPhone and both seem to work fine…

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Lmao. People really are just out there on the raggedy edge. The watch communicates with a shit ton of sensors and other tech only found on Apple devices. Also, last I checked, I can’t run an Android Watch on iPhone fully, there is always a slew of things that don’t work or kinda work. Maybe Apple didn’t want that experience for its users.

You need a Mac to build Apple apps because why in the actual fuck would you use a PC to do that!? What’s the point?

I’m not defending Apple as they clearly gate a lot of shit but the complaining about the dumbest shit ever doesn’t make them Nazis. Also, Google, Samsung, Microsoft, all of them are the same level of asshole. Big Tech is trash. This is not new news.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

You could use an Android watch with iOS but Apple will not let you. I don't get why you are defending Apple

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

What do you mean don’t let you? https://screenrant.com/samsung-galaxy-watch-4-use-with-iphone-compatible-explained/

Same shit as with Apple on Android, basic functionality, nothing more.

So you blame Apple for Android having basic functionality with an aWatch but then blame Apple for a Samsung Watch having basic functionality on iOS? So it’s just Apple’s fault all the way around then?

I guess you also missed the part where I say all big tech is the same? And are all basically shit? Or you just didn’t read that far…

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 months ago

Mullvad is awesome. i think this is the second android bug/incident they brought to light?

Anyway, really really hope this gets fixed upstream, maybe by Graphene

How much you wanna bet this was intentional by Google? 😏

[-] Tundra@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

What I don't understand though, doesn't using mullvad automatically set their own DNS?

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

On the desktop it does. But on Android things are maybe different ? Not directly related but I remember (long time ago) wanting to tether from an Android phone with Mullvad VPN app in use, to a computer, only to find out that the Android defaults (In Android not in the Mullvad app) needed a button swiped to make it work correctly on the other device.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

I thought sharing the VPN was blocked and not possible. Do you remember how you did?

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[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Only if your Android connection is set to automatic DNS. Additionally, they are assuming it is an OS bug. However, they also acknowledge that they had to fix something on their app to mitigate. I tried myself with Wireguard instead, killed the network access to it, and nothing ever left my phone, as Android immediately killed all connections due to the VPN always on feature.

So, I'm going to take their claim with a grain of salt until AOSP says something about this and denies or confirms the alleged bug.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 4 months ago

Any system app on Android, the captive portal login and more CAN all bypass a VPN in "block all other connections" mode.

Android is really problematic and having as little system apps as possible is the only fix.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Imagine using Android at this point

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 57 points 4 months ago

Imagine making idiotic statements at this point.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Imagine being rude for no reason

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You and I don't have to imagine that, dummy. We've already done it.

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[-] CrescentMadeJr@beehaw.org 15 points 4 months ago

You’re not very self aware, are you?

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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago

Well, yes, I prefer desktop. But you know, in some countries some people have nothing else than phones. I am glad that Mullvad has posted this and hopefully Google can fix the bugs soon.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

Are they interested in fixing it though?

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Well iOS does have its advantages but tbh there are no fully usable alternatives for Android now. Hopefully Linux will get better on phones because I feel like we do need an alternative at this point

[-] HEXN3T 20 points 4 months ago

Well, we live in right now, and right now, mobile Linux just isn't suitable for many people, and the hardware that actually supports mobile Linux is a whole other story. It's certainly not possible to just not have a phone at all anymore, either. Calyx, Graphene and Lineage are the current best options. To say someone is stupid for using these is, well, stupid.

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[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

LineageOS with Jerboa over Mullvad VPN here. Not many options on mobile devices.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

And Android runs a shit load of portable devices beyond phones.

Most handheld store scanners are Android based today. Inventory management devices (like warehouses have used since the nineties) used to be Palm-based, are largely Android now, because it's core is Linux. They don't have to run the standard Android shell, they can run their own.

I've used medical monitors that are Android based.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Lineage OS is so much better than stock Android

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

What other alternative is there?

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