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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 156 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems who turned whistleblower has died after a sudden illness, his family announced on Tuesday.

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Dean's sudden death at the age of 45 was announced by his aunt and sister on social media on Tuesday. His mother wrote on Facebook that he had contracted pneumonia in April and suffered a stroke following an MSRA infection.

Let’s not turn into QAnon level conspiracy fuckwits here. He died of a natural illness as confirmed by his mother, and his family probably don’t want to have to deal with seeing everyone bringing him up in some deep state corpo assassination conspiracy bullshit.

You can hate Boeing for their shitty capitalist practices with resorting to this.

[-] Steve@communick.news 152 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed. It really looks like they only killed the one whistle blower.

[-] STOMPYI@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Yea. That first one was so obvious there's no way there's a way to kill someone and fool their mother. Case closed I'm satisfied...

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

That's well within safe levels of whistleblowers turning up dead at the hands of a major defence contractor.

[-] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I think the real take away is that there are so many people willing to speak out against Boeing's procedures that odds are some are going to die before the conclusion of this investigation.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Imma need a dissertation on the probabilities here.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I like how you imply qa anon leaps and obvious deductive powers are the same.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Obvious deductive powers like not reading the article? Or do you think his mum was in on it too?

This article headline is written to push people to a conclusion. If it had simply added the word “illness” most people would not be “deducting” shit. It’s media manipulation to generate clicks and you’re falling for it.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

This article headline is written to push people to a conclusion.

Yes, the source article is from Newsweek, which is about as trustworthy as Boeing.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Explain your point.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 1 year ago

Deducing from headlines and circumstances while ignoring crucial information is exactly what QAnon does

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thinking it's possible a seedy thing happened =/= making up reams of bullshit based on a number in the background but sure everyone who disagrees with you is qanon

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 year ago

I intended to make it more like a cautionary tale. QAnon can happen to the best of us, and seedy thoughts that still consider that it was an illness for a while are sort of an entry point to the thought pattern behind conspiracy theories. If one builds tolerance to this kind of leap, it'll be easier to build tolerance for much bigger leaps.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

QAnon can happen to the best of us,

I don't agree. It happens to vulnerable people. And it's not like a disease you can catch if you're not vigilant. There are many steps to becoming bat shit, and wondering if a specific corporation would kill a person isn't something I'm willing to avoid because next thing I know I'd be trying to hang the vice president.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone is vulnerable in one way or another. Of course, wondering is natural, but seriously accepting it, as some in this thread have done, is a QAnon kind of leap.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some

Technically accurate that some have done that, but an exaggeration to consider it a trend

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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

wondering if a specific corporation would kill a person

You have to realize how your first post came off. The poster you responded to clearly was talking about the people claiming Boeing did it. Of which there are plenty of this thread.

You then jumped in and said this wasn't conspiracy nonsense, but the result of "obvious deductive powers."

This did not come off as merely "wondering" or considering it a possibility, but as if you were saying it was an obvious fact.

I'm not even sure how to interpret that comment in relation to what you're saying now.

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[-] refalo@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago
[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

You can give people infections on purpose. If he had died of a genetic heart defect it would be different.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Okay, but in the interest of not pretending that They Would Never(tm) can we all agree that if a THIRD whistleblower dies shortly before or during testimony that maybe something is happening here? You have the guy who committed suicide in the middle of depositions after telling his friend "If I commit suicide, no I absolutely did not" and now the healthy 45 year old who all of a sudden has multiple infections and a stroke. Is there a point at which you'd accept the idea that it's a bit beyond coincidence that the deadliest place in the world seems to be the witness stand at a trial where Boeing is the defendant?

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 151 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern".

Alternatively...

"If I had a nickel for every Boeing whistle-blower that turned up dead recently, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice, right?"

[-] Maultasche@feddit.de 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no rest for Agent 747

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

The Seattle Times wrote that Dean "had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle," but had died after contracting "a sudden, fast-spreading infection."

Agent 747 has some more sophisticated toys to play with this time. He must have upgraded after the last whistleblower.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, suiciding the guy who flat out told his friends "If I commit suicide no I didn't" shows that agent 747 was due to update his techniques and understanding.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Can't kill them the same way, then it would be obvious.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oh no don't tell me he got engine rot

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

His name is Max.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 67 points 1 year ago

This seems a lot more like an unfortunate coincidence than the first whistleblower, unless Boeing have resorted to bioterrorism to get rid of their witnesses, but I'd hate to be part of Boeing's PR team right now - huge court case where the witnesses against you keep dying doesn't look good even if you had nothing to do with it.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

I doubt during Boeing board meetings they are planning assassinations, but I have no doubt there's a wealthy investor or board member willing to kill to prevent losing money.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

Boeing does sell to the military.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 47 points 1 year ago

His mother wrote on Facebook that he had contracted pneumonia in April and suffered a stroke following an MSRA infection.

I'd expect a very very through autopsy,

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 21 points 1 year ago

And a blood panel so thorough his family knows everything he ate in the last month.

[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I'd expect the body to mysteriously disappear before an autopsy can be performed...

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Fucking hell, why should anyone ever want to fly with Boeing again, if they need to pull this kind of mafia shit to cover up their crimes?

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Is this whistle made of arsenic or something?

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Comes in an envelope with some lovely anthrax

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Putin be like bump it down a notch Boeing.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

no one likes a copycat

[-] topperharlie@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

When you see in movies that the bad guy is bold AF and kills indiscriminately yet no-one seems to be doing nothing you think: meh, that is so unrealistic

yet here we are...

we just need a real life Liam Neeson that would kill all the bosses of Boeing, given that law is useless against the rich and powerful.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lock up the executives this isn’t a coincidence

[-] Chef@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: yeah, they died very suddenly from an infection and stroke. It’s not like they had cancer or anything. So my contention is wrong in this case. Leaving my comment up to memorialize my mistake.

Original comment:

It appears they died from a “natural illness.” Before we go all conspiracy theory here let me remind everyone that a poor diagnosis sometimes LEADS to someone becoming a whistleblower. They are confronted with their own mortality and want to do some good before they go.

The death may not have been a result of the whistleblowing but may have been the cause of the whistleblowing.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago

Fair point, but damned if it isn’t suspicious.

[-] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

Could be coincidence or could be murder. Either way bad time to be a Boeing whistleblower

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

"Hey how can we repair the recent damage to our reputation?"

"Murder somebody"

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

I definitely would be wary of having having any business with this company. Seems like a hazard to health.

[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

well thats weird

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