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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

With how atrocious the quality of this is, this had to have been intentional at some point. Can we not hold ourselves to a higher standard than this?

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Hey thanks! This is so much better.

[-] Flushmaster@ttrpg.network 25 points 6 months ago

I'm amazed that none of these comments are mentioning the subject line of the post is a reference to "Stop! Hammer time!"

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago
[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 months ago

๐Ÿ›‘๐Ÿ”จ๐Ÿ•’

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 6 months ago

This has the same solution as the original. You ask them "which door would your brother say leads to certain doom?" and then you take that door.

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

"He'd say door A or he likes little butts."

[-] Archpawn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

If you trust the guy telling you this, you can just ask him which door leads to certain doom. If not, you have no way of knowing if you're in a knights and knaves puzzle.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

"If I were to ask your brother what kind of butts he likes, how would he answer?"

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Am I missing something? If you ask brother A, he would say his brother likes small butts. If you ask brother B, he would also say his brother likes small butts. How do you differentiate?

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

It works the same as the original puzzle. If you ask the lying small butt brother, he'll lie and say his brother would say he likes small butts. If you ask the truthful big butt brother, he'd say his brother would say he likes big butts, because he knows his brother likes small butts and would lie about it.

Essentially the negatives work out so that each brother answers with the kind of butt they themselves like, which you can then use to determine which is truthful (though at this point that somehow seems less important).

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I feel like the truthful brother would say his brother likes small butts, because that's the truth.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

Yes, but you're not asking him what his brother likes, you're asking him what he would say he likes, which is what flips it. You're basically making sure the answer is a lie regardless of which brother you ask.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The truth is that the whole setup is moot if it's one of the door-guards that tells you the rules, since they might be lying about the whole thing. There needs to be a trusted third-party involved, who knows about the guards but doesn't know which one's lying and which one's telling the truth.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

True. It seems there are different versions of the puzzle, but from a quick search it was popularized by the movie Labyrinth, and there they get around it by having a second set of guards who don't know the answer explain the setup.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I really like this idea, and now I want to put it in a session. Like, we go through the whole 2-brothers riddle, but it turns out that the one explaining the rules is the one lying.

Maybe both doors lead to "death"/encounters, maybe the players are free to just walk past the brothers without consequence, maybe a third more interesting thing happens.

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Got it! That makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Glad to help!

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago

My internal groove got bamboozled.

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

"An anaconda that is sprung?" What does that mean?

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago
[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Oh, so the goal is to get the certain doom?

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

You got a problem with erect penises, friend?

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, mine. EYYYYOOOOO! (I may or may not have ED)

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 6 months ago

I like the implication that anaconda was not a real word beforehand.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 6 months ago

points to random door

You, which kind of butts would the other guy say he like?

[-] erie09@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I am invisioning a snake coiled into a spring shape saying "dOn'T sTeP oN mE" and I really want to smash it

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago
[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Damnit, now that song is stuck in my head!

[-] Overforest@ttrpg.network 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've never liked it when the Two Brothers riddles are worded like this. Either the "always telling the truth" brother is the one saying the riddle, and you know who to ask which door is safe or its the "always lying" brother, in which you don't know what the actual riddle is (as the one they just told you is a lie) and both doors probably lead to the certain death.

(I should probably add that I get the refrence in the post, I'm just being nitpicky)

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

Honestly. Im not sure which door I would prefer to go through.

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Calling someone a cock, and even rightfully so, does not make them a person.

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