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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

That's the reason why most people drink pasteurized milk. Those who don't will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, but they will not be the only ones affected. Mutations and transmissions are not so tidy.

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago

Pasteurization is pretty effective at killing stuff. That's literally what it's meant to do.

Mutations and transmission require a vast array of infections to net appreciable results. I don't think the rare raw milk drinkers will likely be a huge problem.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure, pasteurization works. But then there's the forest...

A multi-state outbreak of HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu in dairy cows was first reportedon March 25, 2024. This is the first time that these bird flu viruses were found in cattle. CDC confirmed one human HPAI A(H5N1) infection that had exposure to dairy cattle in Texas that were presumed to be infected with the virus. While thought to be rare, this exposure to HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu virus is the first instance of likely mammal to human transmission.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Those who don't will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.

If those tradfluencers could read they'd be very upset.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Do they even sell raw milk in stores? I assume you need to get this straight from a farm? And I’m a bit shocked if 4.4 percent of the US is getting their milk from farms. That’s like what ~12million people?

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

They did at whole foods like 15 years ago when I worked there. They pulled it from the shelves I believe because of some new law. A handful of our customers got super mad about it.

[-] WilderSeek@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Most people get them from farmers' markets. There are supposedly health advantages to it, but I'd assume this would be the case from buying from a smaller responsible farm over a corporate factory farm anyhow—regardless of whether it's pasteurized or not.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

It's prolly got some shit they'd call pro-biotic, which will help while their gut flora are eating their corpse.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

They sure do! And it's outrageously expensive.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Yea, they consider it "more healthy" and "more natural" than pasteurized milk. The same kind of people who heal with prayers or crystals and read horoscopes.

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[-] anon987@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's in pasteurized milk as well.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Yes, but the idea of pasteurisation is to get the amount of surviving microorganisms down to less than one in a million or better (depending on local definitions). The human body can then easily take care of the few remaining viruses.

Any kind of pasteurisation is not about eliminating 100% of MOs. It is always a compromise, but also always on the side of "better safe than sorry".

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[-] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

Get fuckin hyped for the end of the world, maybe it'll finish us off this time.

No more of these half measures

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 months ago

u/MyPornViewingAccount

This ~~is not~~ shouldn't be considered porn

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mammal-to-mammal transmission raises new concerns about the virus's ability to spread.

On March 16, cows on a Texas dairy farm began showing symptoms of a mysterious illness now known to be H5N1 bird flu. Their symptoms were nondescript, but their milk production dramatically dropped and turned thick and creamy yellow. The next day, cats on the farm that had consumed some of the raw milk from the sick cows also became ill. While the cows would go on to largely recover, the cats weren't so lucky. They developed depressed mental states, stiff body movements, loss of coordination, circling, copious discharge from their eyes and noses, and blindness. By March 20, over half of the farm's 24 or so cats died from the flu. ...

The early outbreak data from the Texas farm suggests the virus is getting better and better at jumping to mammals, and data from elsewhere shows the virus is spreading widely in its newest host. On March 25, the US Department of Agriculture confirmed the presence of H5N1 in a dairy herd in Texas, marking the first time H5N1 had ever been known to cross over to cows. Since then, the USDA has tallied infections in at least 34 herds in nine states: Texas, Kansas, Michigan, New Mexico, Idaho, Ohio, South Dakota, North Carolina, and Colorado.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago

God dammit, we've got cowvid infecting cats now

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago
[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Cowrona Virus

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Don’t drink raw cow milk unless you’re a cow baby.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think the story goes beyond not drinking raw cow milk and pasteurization at this point. Behind the scenes there is def 'concern'. The first time cattle were known to ever be infected was March of this year.

Two possible bird flu vaccines could be available within weeks, if needed The H5N1 virus has infected at least 36 herds across nine states, raising the risk of potential human spread, federal health officials said Wednesday. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/two-possible-bird-flu-vaccines-available-weeks-needed-rcna149961

“The risk here of something going from one or two sporadic cases to becoming something of international concern, it’s not insignificant,” CDC Principal Deputy Director Nirav Shah said at a Council on Foreign Relations event on Wednesday. “We’ve all seen how a virus can spread around the globe before public health has even had a chance to get its shoes on. That’s a risk and one that we have to be mindful of.” https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/bird-flu-outbreak-cows-biden-00155452

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I always thought raw milk was only really useful for making cheese.

I can't see any reason to drink it.

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[-] card797@champserver.net 16 points 6 months ago

Stay away from the farms. Stay away from the city. Got it.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Could always stop contributing to this and just eat/drink plants.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago

You mean cats? Are they not obligate carnivores?

[-] WilderSeek@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Milk is not good for cats to begin with.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

No, I mean people. The reason the farm exists.

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[-] Sizzler@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago

No way! I've lived this way and I'll destroy my world this way. You must be some kind of crazy /s

[-] WilderSeek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Hahahaha! Been a triathlete for 6 years and a distance runner for 20. Not hurting for protein or calcium at all after dropping cow dairy and most meat (I occasionally have fish 1-3 times a week). Went off eggs a few years, too, and was fine. There's so many alternatives these days—even for people who don't have time to prepare/cook.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Obligatory reminder to get your flu shots!

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

I did and got the flu twice anyway :(

I'm still going to get this one too once it's available.

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