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Ben Stiller on Zoolander 2's 'Blindsiding' Flop: 'Wow, I must have really f**ked this up' (www.ign.com)
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[-] ZeroCool@vger.social 127 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think Ben Stiller just completely missed the mark with Zoolander 2 and it's good that he realizes it. It happens, not everything's gonna land the way you thought it would. But people really need to just stop making sequels to comedies years if not decades after the originals. It rarely ever works because comedy changes over time. Some humor doesn't age well but more importantly some premises just don't work well outside of the era they were conceptualized in because they were a reflection of that period. There are some exceptions of course but I've been burned too many times by shitty - purposeless sequels.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 80 points 4 months ago

Also, the original worked because it was a new idea, same as Anchorman. Take a profession, ratchet the stupid up to 11 and have fun with it.

The sequel doesnt have the same "fresh ground" to walk over.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 4 months ago

Super Troopers 2 has the same problem. It essentially is the same movie so the good jokes don't hit hard since they're just more of the same, and the new jokes felt like they were just cut out of the first one for not being good enough.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I wish I could argue this point but I cant.

Super Troopers 2 at least felt like a fun revist though, probably because you know the Broken Lizard guys really are friends and it probably wasnt just a pay cheque for them. Even their more mediocre standalone films get a huge boost from that.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Yesss! Watch Tacoma FD on Netflix. The 30-minute episode format works fantastic for them!

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And this is why I'm skeptical about Deadpool &Wolverine. Deadpool 2 was good because even though Deadpool was great there was still plenty to make fun of in the superhero genre, but I'm not sure if there's enough fresh ground left for a 3rd one .

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

As long as Ryan Reynolds has free reign I'm gonna watch the hell out of it.

[-] Denalduh@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I can watch Deadpool 2 but I absolutely despise that kid. I mean, huge props to the actor because they did such a great job if I feel this strongly about him. But seriously, fuck that kid.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 months ago

Watch hunt for the wilderpeople and then you won't hate him anymore 😂

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

The second Anchorman movie is almost as good as the first one imo.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

I did not think so. It wasnt as bad as Zoolander 2, it had a few good moments but it felt more like "part 2" than a sequel... like it was a bunch of more of the same than anything bigger or better.

If you watch them back to back now it plays better than when it first came out.

[-] ElderberryLow@programming.dev 21 points 4 months ago

I should probably stop hoping for Blazing Saddles 2

[-] Davel23@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago

History of the World Part 2 was recently released as an 8-part series. I haven't watched it but reviews indicate it's not terrible.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

It has its moments, though not nearly as memorable as the movie. It really helps to be a fan of Mel Brooks' style of humor.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Do we get to SEE, JEWS... IN SPAAACE?

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yes, they actually fulfill that decades-old promise.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

EXCELLENT!

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy: part 42

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[-] assembly@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

I liked the first Zoolander movie and I’m surprised I didn’t even realize they made a second one. I may have to watch it just because it exists and maybe now that I have a super low expectation it will not be so bad.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

It's as good as the fourth Matrix movie, or Dumb & Dumber Too.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 9 points 4 months ago

Hey the first like, ~40 minutes of the fourth Matrix isn't that bad. It's just after the Wachowski's were finished making fun of the concept of lame milquetoast sequels trying desperately to do more of the same, they actually went and made one.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I did enjoy the Carrie-Anne Moss reveal that made her even hotter than in the original film.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

After seeing Dumb & Dumber Too, I found Dumb & Dumberer to be a better sequel. I still quote Bob Saget from Dumberer; there's nothing worth repeating in Too.

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[-] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It's legit bad, and not in a so-bad-it's-good way

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[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 11 points 4 months ago

For what it's worth, Zoolander still holds up, even if some of the jokes from that era will fly over people's heads.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

Dere-lick my balls will always be great.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago

I can dere-lick my own balls, thank you very much.

[-] astrsk@kbin.social 10 points 4 months ago

This realization is why I hope Austin Powers 4 never happens.

[-] loobkoob@kbin.social 6 points 4 months ago

I recall him saying a year or two back that he ultimately thinks it's a good thing it failed, too, because, if it'd done well, he probably wouldn't have gone onto do more serious things like Escape At Dannemora and Severance.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

I agree in part, I think that making a sequel decades after the original IRL and story-wise and updating the ideas and humour to not be the same as in the original might be worth it. But that would require an actual new idea that somehow aligns with characters strong enough to make it reasonable to make a sequel and not a new IP.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

They definitely fucked up the marketing, because this is the first I've heard of it.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 14 points 4 months ago

You didn't miss out, it was terrible.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

Wait... there was a Zoolander 2?

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 months ago

It's about the same quality as Anchorman 2. Meaning it just seemed like a remake of the first movie. A lot of the scenes I watched and might have laughed a bit, but there was always a better scene from the first movie to compare it to. I think that took away from my enjoyment.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I feel the same way about Ghostbusters 2.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago

I wasn’t even aware (or completely forgot) there was another one.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can 100% say I had no idea this movie happened.

Kinda like the Star Wars battlefront remaster that aparently dropped a month ago.

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[-] hakase@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

I'm unfortunate enough to have seen this in theaters on opening day. It was very bad.

Luckily we saw Deadpool directly afterward which completely made up for it.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

This is an article 8 years after a movie was released 15 years after the first.

How timely.

[-] ZeroCool@vger.social 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The article is about an interview he did on David Ducovny's upcoming 'Fail Better' podcast... Which is specifically about people who've experienced high profile failures.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is a comment 37 minutes after yours. I don't think I helped, in fact I think I wasted both our time...

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

I’m here 18 minutes later to respond.

[-] mihnt@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Response 4: The Articling

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[-] livus@kbin.social 8 points 4 months ago

Idk I think it's valid to look back on stuff like this. I don't want/need a 24h news cycle for discussing movies.

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Joe Dirt 2 was so bad as well

[-] ZeroCool@vger.social 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, that was god awful. Fuck Crackle for releasing that garbage out into the world. I'm glad that streamer failed for Sony and the only buyers they could find were the publishers of the Chicken Soup for The Soul book series.

[-] antisuck@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I totally remember choosing not to bother with this one because the first one was perfect.

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