Huh. Maybe it's the communities/posts I've visited but I wouldn't agree with your assessment of an inherent negativity/hatefulness. Do you have examples we can discuss?

Fuck you I am full of love

People on Lemmy have bailed from Reddit because they have principles. Stuff like Linux. The value of science/education. Lefty-ism (or whatever it's called in their region). FOSS. They are willing to cut themselves out from a larger community to foster one that is compatible with their principles.

From your comment history you seem to be posting stuff outside of Lemmy's core beliefs. That's great! But the people here really believe in those principles, so they react negatively to the comments.

I dunno what else to say. If we want Lemmy to be viable, we need to allow people with other views build communities here. We feel pretty close to a monoculture at the moment.

I've seen the same thing and I think it's a conversation we need to have.

I think it's because Lemmy is populated by people who did not like Reddits changes. We are malcontents by definition, and holy cow does it show. And of course all the people that have had their Reddit accounts banned too.

I think everyone needs to take their tone down quite a few notches.

I hadn't really noticed that Lemmy is any more or less negative than Reddit used to be. I have noticed that most people on here are a lot more polite aside from the occasional trolls. Maybe the negativity is more of a trend in the specific communities you're visiting?

I've seen very little negativity on Lemmy in almost a year of using it.

There is !casualconversation@lemm.ee for positive or at least neutral conversation.

If you see too much negativity here, you are probably hanging out in toxic communities.

I saw your last post about Kaspersky on the Piracy community, sorry to see the comments you got.

Each community has its own vibe and moderation policy. A few of them are quite toxic, a few are very nice, the rest is in between.

My previous experience is reddit, and I've found Lemmy to be far more positive, with exceptions.

Interactions with mods here are far less demanding and nitpicky. It's more like interaction and less like being told off.

Interactions with other users vary, but I'd say it is a net positive experience here. On reddit, other users were a net negative.

The exception is the reaction when you disagree with the consensus built up between a post and its comments. Whether it's reddit or Lemmy, you're going to have a bad time.

I haven't found that at all. I have blocked a handful of communities, but most of them weren't particularly negative, just stuff I didn't want to see.

I think it's a facet of the largest Lemmy servers feeling (being?) more ideologically homogenous, itself in part because of how niche Lemmy still is compared to Reddit.

Many of the users came here after the API died and so made joining here an explicitly ideological choice.

People aren't here because their friends are here. Not really. Not yet.

They're here cause they want to be, because this is important to them or their beliefs or their identity.

That's totally valid and good and fine. But u should know and expect that when posting here, especially on the biggest or most general or politically volatile communities.

I've got negative interest in trying any Unix/Linux based OS on my home PC and I'm ambivalent about FOSS, but i recognize that being here will mean that putting up with a certain amount of "Windows bad" that i just have to laugh and shake off or stop coming here

The whole point of the fediverse is that you can do it yourself if you don't like the way existing instances operate.

But here it seems you're not interested in putting forth any effort at all: https://lemm.ee/comment/11445877

If you want to join someone else's community, expect to have to abide by their rules. You wanna make the rules, put in the effort to make your own community. Nobody's forcing you to be here. Bye now, don't let my block hit you on the way out.

Looking at your post and comment history, it looks like you are, yourself, part of the problem. I see a number of pessimistic (or shit-stirring) posts, posts that appear to be in favor of "ancap", and commenting in piracy comms. Sorry to say it but, you may want to examine your own behavior before pointing at others.

Idk, because redditors came here?

I'm just as guilty of this as the next person sometimes, it sometimes seems like a struggle not to be your worst self online. I'm trying to be better, I think that's what we can do to combat it.

Maybe you just have some real shit hot takes.

I find Lemmy to be about on par with the popular (Front Page) Reddit subs. I tended to stay in smaller, more niche subs than Front Page subs and found them to be more polite and well-written, generally.

Lemmy isn't so bad, but we do clearly get some people who are here because they were banned from Reddit (and sometimes for immediately apparent reasons).

I think there's far more negativity in the comments of YouTube, Instagram, and especially Facebook.

But more than anything, I've seen more posts about negativity on Lemmy. So to me, it almost seems like the people coming to (or on?) Lemmy are more sensitive to negativity, maybe?

I think it just correlates with leftism in the US and Lemmy was leftist before the Reddit exodus increased the population. I say this as a US center-left liberal (and I get annoyed with it myself).

The leftist movement is very anti-establishment, very pessimistic about their future under capitalism, very pessimistic about the US political establishment, very pessimistic about climate change, very pessimistic about the Israel-Hamas situation, very pessimistic about police, very pessimistic about health care, very pessimistic about both Biden and Temp, very pessimistic about ... pretty much every major issue (except maybe weed).

Edit: I don't mean to "rage against the leftist" either, I think y'all have some good points from time to time and there are definitely things I agree with you on (e.g. the health care system needs major changes). Some of y'all give a real "you must be fun at parties" kind of vibe though and some are about as bad as the Trump supporters in terms of using personal attacks.

Im pretty sure many of my subscriptions are on lemmy and I have not noticed it. I mean there is negativity but its certainly no worse than reddit and not even sure if I can say its way less but I find things more authentic overall.

Hatred drives engagement on any and all social media. Even ones where everything is made up and the points don't matter.