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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Spoiler: GNOME wins

Btw their GNOME Theme manager is here

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 74 points 9 months ago

Spoiler, that’s just an opinion.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 52 points 9 months ago

As someone who had to help coworkers with Windows, Mac and Linux problems one of the main problems of macOS is the fact that you have to use the clumsy GUI for so many things and that the Unix-like underpinnings are badly maintained and outdated so many systems have several versions of the same tool installed in various locations (OS-, Homebrew-, MacPorts- or whatever other package manager of the day versions).

[-] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

I've been macOS user for past decade. I've switch to Linux a year ago and the first thing I did when I tried Gnome was to switch to KDE. I like how Gnome tries to mimic macOS but it's still has long way ahead. Gnome was really good on a touch device but I kept hitting the wall with small quirks and eventually I switched to KDE. I know it's unpopular opinion but I find macOS UI superior to both Gnome and KDE.

[-] krimsonbun 20 points 9 months ago

everyone has their preferences, and maybe it could also have something to do with you being so used to the macOS ui that anything else feels weird or wrong in a way?

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Fwiw i have almost exactly the same feeling going from gnome to macos, sure its polished but it goes out of its way to make anything even slightly complicated incredibly difficult. So yeah im pretty sure its mostly familiarity.

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[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 40 points 9 months ago

Wtf why are people downvoting this.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 34 points 9 months ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Some people hate life.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago
[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 18 points 9 months ago

I use KDE but GNOME is cool too lol.

Btw it is pronounced with a G.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

You will never make me pronounce the G. Never!

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago

Wait, you don't pronounce the G? So it's like... "NOM-NOM-NOM"?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

LOL. Yes, but add an E at the end. Like this::

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 11 points 9 months ago

BIG kDE is suppressing this post.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

As a regular user of both, I'm able to accomplish custom stuff faster with Linux, but Mac is pretty hands off once you get it set up. That said, it's a garbage OS out of the box. It's 2024 and it doesn't even have windows snapping or back button support. You have to install and configure 3rd party tools to make it behave like something created in the last two decades. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't give a shit about their Mac OS anymore, since most of their money comes from iOS and store purchases/subscriptions.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

That's because Microsoft has patented window snapping. Third party apps are still there because they aren't worth chasing.

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Anything is better than Mac... I hate how every time I try to push the green circle in the top left it now goes into full screen mode (if you don't hold option every single time). Who the fuck wants full screen mode?

That one feature is honestly enough to use anything else. It didn't used to be this way... But Apple has been screwing up their products for over a decade now.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 22 points 9 months ago

We are polar opposites; I almost never want something not in fullscreen, hah. I've been using a mac for work for a bit over a year now and hate it.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 15 points 9 months ago

Can you change these colored circles to symbols? Red/green are horrible, I can mostly not differetiate them

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

Somehow I never considered that, MacOS' stupid stoplight buttons aren't particularly accessible, are they?

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[-] 0x0f 9 points 9 months ago

they change to symbols when hovering, i don't think they have a a11y setting for them :/

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago

Mac OS isn't really usable for most people

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

And Linux is?

I want you to tell grandma how to update her video driver. Over the phone.

[-] Retiring@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

Why would grandma want to do that? I have set up computers for tech illiterate people with Linux quite successfully. You just tell them: „if it wants your password, you did something wrong. Never enter your password, unless you know exactly why“ Set and forget.

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[-] Schorsch@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

I have been using Linux since 2007. I have never had to update video drivers manually.

Sure, I don't do gaming. But neither do most grandmothers.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Steps with Bazzite:

  1. Restart the computer
  2. Not needed, 1 did it.
  3. Seriously, 1 was all it takes. If there's an update, it installs on boot
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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

Linux isn’t really usable for most people

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I think this is mostly because people who know about it have a mental block that it's only for nerds. Millions have been using Android on their phones for years, though we'll limit ourselves to desktop GNU/Linux type distributions for this discussion.

Actual usage of Linux has gotten much easier since 2006ish when I first tried it out. With all the popups and ads in Windows nowadays, its rapidly becoming harder to use than Linux, something I did not expect. I don't see a combined Linux User Group/ Bingo Club/ Bridge Group forming anytime soon, but Linux Mint isn't any harder to use than Windows, even for normies with an average level of tech skills.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago
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[-] Railison@aussie.zone 11 points 9 months ago

There are some gaps in this video owing to the guy not knowing some different keyboard shortcuts in macOS and just assuming they don’t exist.

I’d say macOS is still more consistent than Linux but it certainly peaked in Snow Leopard.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago

How can people claim Gnome isn't trying to copy the Mac UI? If he didn't say mac at all during the video, I'd think this is some Chinese desktop environment being compared with Gnome.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 9 months ago

I asked that once and it is pretty different.

  1. GNOME didnt look like that all the time. I dont know when but they went from bottom panel to top panel to left side panel to this layout.
  2. The top bar is used differently. Workspace indicator, but no global menu (which makes no sense) or app menu. Extensions can make it pretty much the same
  3. The dock is hidden and forces the workflow with workspaces. I dont think thats a crazy feature and dash to dock makes it equal again
  4. The window buttons are different
  5. The top bars are thicker etc.

Some settings are different, the tiling works better but yeah it is too similar.

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[-] epoch@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I have a MacBook Pro and I recently tried GNOME3 for the million time. macOS wins. GNOME3 sucks.

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