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Implicitly converting anything anywhere is always a bad idea, especially when it can't be done in a lossless way.
There could be an option to auto convert to PNG. I wouldn't want anything auto converted to a lossy format like JPEG.
Lossless webp to lossless JXL
webp is a great format though...
Too bad so many platforms are not compatible with it. I am constantly having to convert the image type to post the image.
thats on the platforms not the format
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Not really. It is better than shitty JPEG encoders but not really much better than good ones. It's lossless was fairly good but still barely worth it. Really we should chuck it for JPEG XL but Google is strong-arming it for unknown reasons.
jpegxl should be the successor, granted - but that doesn't make webp any less good
No, but it also doesn't make it any good to start with.
Google is strong-arming it for unknown reasons.
lol. Yeah it’s a mystery.
Exactly, great quality and small file sizes. Perfect to reduce web bloat, or loading times when using things like FoundryVTT
lost mastodon user
Did they intend to tag an official Firefox account or something? I'm not sure how this works on the Mastadon side of things.
Mastodon's UI for groups is terrible. This community is indistinguishable from an account named "@Firefox" with thousands of followers unless you open its page and notice it says "Group" and understand what that means.
yes
When I save an image, I want the exact same binary 1:1, not a recompressed one or whatever, I want the original picture, be it jpeg/png/webp, every graphics program can open webp, nothing wrong with it.
At least if you hate webp, convert them to png, but not jpeg...
Okay all the hate about webp or jpg aside: This should at most be an add-on not a core FF feature. And it also is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-webp-as-png-or-jpeg/
Sounds more like a problem with their intended usage pipeline, like an image viewer or word processing app problem.
It's not really Firefox's task or problem to convert files from one format to the other, why would it be?
Why is it that the url ends in .JPG but when I right click and save image I can only save it as a .webp?
Some CDNs like Akamai and Cloudflare have options to optimize images. We use the Akamai one where I work. It means our creative teams, customers, etc. don’t need to worry too much about whether an image is properly optimized when they upload it. Akamai will, behind the scenes optimize the quality, color palette, and image type (jpg, web, png, etc) and create a number of different versions of the images. Then when a client requests the image Akamai looks at the client device (mobile vs desktop, screen resolution, browser version, etc) and serves the copy of the image that’s best optimized for that device.
So even if the URL ends with .jpg you might be sent a .webp. If you use the browsers developer tool to inspect the response headers you’ll likely see the Content-Type header says it’s .webp as well.
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WebP images are not bad. Not great, but not bad. The lossless mode is quite good. It is on the software you use to support WebP.
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What are you using that can't handle webp by now?
Facebook Messenger on android. I hate messenger but that's where my Luddite family hangs out. Often have to convert the webp meme I downloaded from lemmy first.
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There is an addon to request jpeg. But converting lossy...why?
Shouldn't we strive for webp compatibility in more applications so it can be viewed readily and easily?
Sure. And then use formats that are good enough that have broad support.
Attack the problem from both sides.
I mean Gwenview, GIMP and tons of other apps support it. I dont know an app that doesnt support it actually
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This post is why we can’t have nice things
Skill issue.
I'm a Linux user and didn't even notice, let alone care, when I downloaded images as webp because it works just fine with all my other software (Dolphin, Gwenview, GIMP, etc.). There is no problem with webp; who gives a shit?
@grue You don't need to identify yourself as a Linux user. The insulting remark at the top of your post and the tone of the rest of it makes it clear.
Ever been forced by your workplace to use a piece of software you'd prefer not to? For example, ever tried to share a webp image on MS Teams? You can't; you have to convert it first. Lots of household-name software rejects the format.
Hopefully the Firefox team needs to care about more than the needs of condescending Linux users.
I also find this insulting even as a linux user myself.
OP you can try GIMP in the meantime as Firefox exports WEBP. There is also a portable version by PortableApps.
Have a nice day, OP.
It's not Firefox's problem that MS Teams (or other "household name" software) sucks.
Edit: ITT: people getting mad at me for pointing out that they're misattributing the blame.
Agreed. I dislike webp intensely but it’s not firefox’s problem to solve. Be mad at google, not firefox.
@grue Another very productive reply. Great. Enjoy your perfectly cross-compatible software environment that somehow exists despite a lack of compatibility not being a "problem" for any software maker to care about.
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only a kludge, not a fix: Don’t Accept image/webp
I might have to try that. I've been using Save webP as, though I'm not sure it's exactly what OP is asking. I like that it also does animated webp conversion.
Webpee is more Google shit being forced down our throats. They absolutely will eventually phase out all other graphic formats on Chrome. These giant tech companies are breaking the Web and this is just another example of them throwing their weight around.
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fortunately, since you use Firefox, there are a handful of extensions available just for this problem already. Maybe not for the drag n drop, though...
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I prefer PNG because of losless-nes (is that right?). If it's jpeg, or webp originally, i don't mind getting the image in that format. But converting/recompression is bad.
It should be spelt "losslessness". "lossless" is an adjective and when you add "-ness" to an adjective it becomes a noun.
I prefer PNG because it losslessly compresses raster images.
I prefer PNG because it uses a lossless algorithm.
I prefer PNG because I love losslessness.
After turning the word into a noun though, you'll need to know how to turn it back into an adjective. We use "-less" to turn the noun into an adjective.
I prefer PNG because it losslessnesslessly compresses raster images.
I prefer PNG because it uses a losslessnessless algorithm.
I prefer PNG because I love losslessnesslessness.
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