305
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by RoseTintedGlasses to c/news@lemmy.world

accidentally posted this in world news before bcs i forgot about the no internal US news rule by accident

Congressman Adam Smith says ‘totalitarian’ protesters are ‘trying to silence anyone who dares to disagree with them’

Protesters calling for Israel to cease fire in its war with Hamas who have disrupted US public events and infrastructure are practicing “leftwing fascism” or “leftwing totalitarianism”, a senior US House Democrat said, adding that such protesters are “challenging representative democracy” and should be arrested.

“Intimidation is the tactic,” said Adam Smith of Washington state, the ranking Democrat on the House armed services committee. “Intimidation and an effort to silence opposition … I don’t know if there’s such a thing as leftwing fascism. If you want to just call it leftwing totalitarianism, then that’s what it is. It is a direct challenge to representative democracy now.”

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 145 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Congressman Adam Smith says ‘totalitarian’ protesters are ‘trying to silence anyone who dares to disagree with them’

Says the man wanting to lock people up.

“Intimidation is the tactic,”[…] “Intimidation and an effort to silence opposition”

Is this man so comically evil he’s trying to be the Spanish Inquisition?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

Does he plan on locking up Chuck Schumer too?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

I was outraged by the headline, but he said protestors should be arrested in the context of protesting outside of someone’s home. While I don’t think I agree with that, I can at least understand why he would feel that constitutes intimidation.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah his whole tirade is ludicrous and he sounds like an absolute asshat, but someone reportedly vandalized his home, and that's crossing a very big line. He should shut the hell up about whatever he thinks "leftwing fascism" is, and they should stop vandalizing people's homes.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

I dunno, I’m with ya but also if you see protesters, who regular citizens with no special power, as totalitarian tyrants wanting to silence you while also demanding they be arrested with your very real closeness to the power that could that then fuckin’ maybe your house should get vandalized. I’d draw the line at hurting an actual person and then urging people away from vandalism since they might hurt someone by accident but stillllll…

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 7 months ago

Does he mean the Jews doing a Seder in front of Chuck Schumer's house?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

protestors should be arrested in the context of protesting outside of someone’s home

Being a public elected figure typically means dealing with constituents, even when you don't want to. That's the nature of the job.

If you don't want folks on the sidewalk waving signs that call you a murderer, maybe stop advancing policies that kill tens of thousands of people.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Aren't there harassment laws that should already cover this? Protesting outside of a business should be fine. But protesting outside of living areas feels like targeted harassment.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I disagree. That's like going after journalists/reporters because the huddled outside a senators house because he/she caught in a scandal. Because it's a group, you could argue that's intimidation too except that they're asking questions in the public interest. Protesters whether you agree with them or not believe they're acting in the public interest too and are trying to change things for the better.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 102 points 7 months ago

Totalitarian... protesters?

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

You get a buzzword, you get a buzzword, everyone gets a buzzword!!!

[-] Zorsith 9 points 6 months ago

The ANTIFA are culturally appropriating the Jewish space lasers! Antisemitism!

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Fun fact. The organization of holocaust survivors, bund of anti fascists in Germany, whose members are mainly Jewish holocaust survivors and their descendants has been targeted by the German government for being "far left extremism." Because actual holocaust survivors are clearly suspicious for demanding antifascism.

[-] Zorsith 7 points 6 months ago

I've heard that its also including bank account freezes for them as well in some cases, utterly ridiculous behavior by the German government.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Antiwar Tankies

[-] ImADifferentBird 98 points 7 months ago

This is the most incoherent thing I've ever seen...

By speaking out, these "totalitarian" protesters are silencing everyone else and challenging representative democracy? And to stop them from silencing others, they must be arrested to prevent them from speaking?

Dude, this couldn't have sounded good in your fucking head...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's called doublespeak.

A guy called Orwell wrote a book about Modern Totalitarianism that includes this (prety good book, recommended read).

It was supposed to be a work of fiction but apparently a lot of politicians are using it as a roadmap.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is beyond double speak. It doesn't even need to make sense anymore. As in, like, they don't even need to form a complete, coherent sentence anymore.

They don't need to. They've had far more success with the big lie than anyone ever expected, I believe.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

double speak and double think didn't need to make sense. The key to them is accepting directly contradicting statements as equally true as long as the party puts them out. The total ignorance to contradiction is the key.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 71 points 7 months ago

Strange .. I don't remember storming a capital building trying to subvert our democratic process....

All I suggested is that not everyone in Gaza is Hamas. That 6 year old girls are way to young to understand what a Nazi even is.

And that Israel's tactics for a hostage situation is deplorable. Considering they used more Bombs in a week then the USA dropped in Afghanistan in a year.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago

Wish we had an anti-genocide party in this country.

load more comments (19 replies)
[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago

What an absolute dickbag. He even complains about silent protests that are 100% peaceful. Maybe if your stance is so weak that silent protestors are enough to derail your plans, you should rethink your stance. He even downplays children being killed.

Also, if we are talking about silencing opposite points of views, how many pro-Israel people in the US have been kicked out of school, arrested, vilified in the mainstream press, or fired from their jobs?

load more comments (6 replies)
[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 54 points 7 months ago

Pretty standard perspective for a politician that has been in office since the 90s.

When you really haven't felt accountability for decades, it probably feels intimidating. He might have to, you know, represent these opinions from his constituents somehow.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

"You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists"

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Friendly Reminder:

Neoliberals are conservatives. Always have been. The D next to the name does not change that.

We do not currently have a viable left-wing party. We have a conservative party and a more conservative party.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

We have two parties, conservative and fascist.

We used to have a centrist and far right party. And before that, for a brief time, we had a liberal and a Conservative party.

One party makes outrageous and unreasonable demands that only move to the right, and the other party is happy to negotiate with those demands, and so the country moves further and further to the right.

We're told the only way to stop this is to keep doing what we've already been doing.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

From an outside perspective you have a an economic far right party with gay rights and systemic racism and genocidal imperialism as well as a fascist party w.o. gay rights

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

Oh look... the (so-called) "moderates" and "centrists" peddling the exact narratives their fascist cousins want them to peddle.

I guess it's true what they say - fascism can only sprout once liberals have loosened the ground for it.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

These tools use the novel 1984 as a self help book.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

People like this democrats and republican should not be allowed in government

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Problem is that the people who really should be in government are the ones who don't want to be in government.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Man I sure do love being forced to be in the same party with this guy and not having a bowl of punch to stick my dick in.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 19 points 7 months ago

Ooh, sounds like some asshole just found out he's going to be replaced in November.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 6 months ago

"the ranking Democrat on the House armed services committee"

Oh you mean the guy who almost certainly is being paid by the military industrial complex to keep arms sales going as much as humanly possible? That tracks.

Get fucked Smith. Hope your "totalitarian" base votes you the fuck out.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

Come and try it, you old ,corporate cock gobbling, douche bag.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 7 months ago

"Why do these pinko commies keep talking about what happens when they scratch me?"

[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is your daily reminder that the Democratic party is right wing and are just as ignorant of the mere definition of “leftist” as the Republican fascists are.

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago
[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago
[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

Pointing out the desolate state of the Democratic party and its inhumane policies internally and abroad is just botting for Trump didnt you know?

[-] RoseTintedGlasses 9 points 6 months ago

he's literally a congressman for the democratic party, i dont see how he could be any more of a democrat

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] sandman@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

“Intimidation is the tactic,”

Yes, absolutely. There is a war against free speech and they're trying to make people afraid to even fight back.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

“challenging representative democracy”

What he means is, they're challenging this fucked system that doesn't represent people equally. 2 senators per state, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. This guy is a fascist himself, and that's why he immediately calls his opposition fascist. Imagine calling people who want a ceasefire fascist? That is something Joseph Goebbels would have said I bet. We don't have a representative democracy.

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Isn't that the guy from Poltergeist?

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2024
305 points (100.0% liked)

News

23353 readers
2875 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS