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What is your most controversial opinion? (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Cannacheques@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

We're the healthiest and smartest generation in the last hundred or so years on average per person, yet due to a variety of systemic factors we're all totally handicapped to producing positive changes towards helping one another let alone many, and it's largely down to our systems being completely shit.

[-] bazo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Companies want people to be healthy and smart to do work. But they also want people to be divided to smaller groups (e.g. bullshit rule about not telling your salary to coworkers). And companies pay as less as people can withstand so we will want to work more. And by working more we are more closed minded and angry and don't have a time to be kinder.

Idk if that's makes sense, but I'm just sad because of inequality and people (poor, short sighted people) willing to defend it.

[-] ihatetroons@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Minorities (race/gender/religion/sexual orientation/gender identity/whatever) should be treated equally but not treated specially (no affirmative action/positive or negative stereotypes/etc) including celebrations/holidays or acknowledgements that they are the first XYZ person to do ABC. Those kind of details should be as utterly unremarkable as someone having a different eye color, different hair color, innie/outie belly button, being left- or right-handed, etc.

Otherwise, they are being given consideration based on some arbitrary trait rather than on character or other merits. And that consideration only serves to accentuate and widen the divide.

[-] RedditRefugee13@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The biggest issue humanity is facing currently is corruption of governments and corporations.

[-] alp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Is the controversial part of this opinion the fact that it's not controversial at all so that it will create a discussion based on its controversy?

[-] Taokan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Velcro is fine. It shouldn't just be for kids shoes: shoelaces are like ties: a pointless time waster we should have ditched as soon as we invented velcro.

[-] RedBox@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Pandering to very small percentage groups, who still just moan and whinge, this bothers me. And employing based on quotas, this bothers me. You end up with a few people carrying a load of shit.

[-] b1_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pineapple on pizza is okay.

(I have my 9mm beretta, an uzi, a kalishnakov machine gun I picked up in the Congo, 6 grenades, a machete and and broad sword and I'm going up on that hill over there so you come and take me down. C'mon all you motherfuckers try and say otherwise, pizza purist pussies!)

[-] sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We currently live in a thriving bully culture. Every stupid fucking political issue were focused on is either preventing bullying or encouraging bullying. I think its about time we recognized that a huge percent of humans get a dopamine/feel good boost when they shit on other people. This counts for things as vague and superficial as someones appearance, up to whether or not someone should have rights.

[-] Hastur@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Representative Democracies have failed (are failing) like all other political ruling systems have failed so far. Some failed just faster than others that failed more catastrophically while some fail silently (agonizing). In the end all systems failed.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Is your argument only that democratic republics will fail? Are you arguing that it would be better to implement democracy in a different way, or that it should be foregone altogether? I imagine most people would agree that they inevitably fail, but not that there is a better option.

[-] Hastur@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I intentionally wrote: representative democracies. I'm not aware of any ongoing implementation of complete direct democracy, not even in Switzerland so I can't tell for those.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Wow, that is unpopular. I've been campaigning against republics for a long time, but I've never seen anyone agree.

[-] Hastur@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Nowadays you can cause riots by saying: Humans come in XY and XX chromosomes by genetic program, the correct expression of this genetic program leads to male or female genitalia and there's currently no medical or surgical procedure to change that, no matter how much you insist. So that was one notch less controversial.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

You can't cause riots by saying that. Obviously you can't literally change your dna. No one is trying to do that. What people are saying, is that gender, while related to sex, isn't the same thing as sex. The meaning of the word is basically category, and if you look at other cultures, they often have more than 2 genders, and they are not related to or are only partially related to sex. That's what people mean when they say gender is a social construct. Trans people are truly changing genders, not sexes. That's why the term "transgender" is used.

[-] zhemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds to me like they are recognizing the issue that gender is a construct, and making the issue worse by enforcing more made up social boxes to stuff things into, instead of recognizing and accepting the realities of sex and disrespecting gender as the oppressive tool it is. Just like how non-binary people who submit to their specific place in the trans story are enforcing the idea of two main boxes they fit between. I think the misstep in most languages development that pushed sex information/assumptions into pronouns has made it harder to think of things logically now. Someones genetic configuration have no relevance to the vast majority of communications. Unfortunately, I think this has cause bad people to enforce oppression and impacted peo people to create more fantasy that modifies the issue but doesn't help it. I personally think the biggest danger in trans led communications is a lack of focus on looking to accept yourself as a physical being and disrespect what people expect from that, as a first step anyways. I think more steps beyond that are certainly good for some people. I think that sounds of the things trans people are advocating for is great for humans, but only because they're the quickest way to get a slightly better quality of life using fantasy. I don't know if eradicating the social constrains built into our very languages is as easy as creating fantasy social constraints that give more people more peace. It's a difficult topic in my opinion.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I don't know if eradicating the social constrains built into our very languages is as easy as creating fantasy social constraints that give more people more peace.

It would be essentially impossible to convince people to just stop using gendered pronouns. Some languages already do this, like Turkish, but it introduces more problems. It becomes much more difficult to differentiate between people in conversation if you use the same pronouns for everyone. People who natively speak Turkish, and other languages like it, learn to structure their sentences in ways that make it clear who they are talking about without the use of gendered pronouns. So not only do you have to convince people to stop using those pronouns, you have to change the way they speak entirely.

I think its a much better idea to have more than 2 genders, maybe 3 or 4, and randomly assign them at birth regardless of sex. This way you could differentiate between people even more effectively as well as remove the social constraints. This would also be extremely difficult and probably impossible to make happen, but I think its ideal.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We assign a random token at birth, that is used purely to identify you in conversations?

That's called a name my homie

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but why would you refer to people by their name every time you mention them? It gets very tedious very fast.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

That gender abolition is the best way forward for society. Really gets both sides all pissy

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I agree that its ideal, but how would you even do that? Its so engrained into peoples' brains that I doubt it could even happen unless the vast majority of people agreed to not teach the concept to their children.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Same way any social progress is made: gradually change people's opinions

[-] Swimming_Monitor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What is gender abolition, the abolition of any distinctions between male and female?

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

No, that would be quack genetic modification. Not my area of expertise. Eliminating the social categorization of gender as a whole.

[-] Swimming_Monitor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

No need to call anybody a quack. I'm just trying to understand your controversial opinion.

Social categorization is incredibly vague, so it's still not clear to me what you feel should be abolished.

[-] Shit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I think he is trying to say everyone should become a they/them and he wants to abolish he/she genders?

[-] Swimming_Monitor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I'd be surprised if his most controversial opinion is related to grammar.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

In an extremely blunt way, it's correct. It obviously extends beyond grammar, and I have an entirely different stance on how 3rd person pronouns should be handled in English that described, but the premise is solid. Take where you would typically use gender, and, like, don't. Obviously you would still have biological sex for things like medical records, but it wouldn't be tied to who you are as a person, it would just be a letter on a paper somewhere.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Responding here since I didn't know how to ping you in the other comment, in a sort of blunt way, you're correct. Everyone would simply just be, not categorized into gender and the associated social expectations that come with it

[-] Spleen@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

That dogs don't belong in cities. There should be a demarcation where dogs are not allowed to be and where it's illegal to own them. They are disgusting...

If you live outside in the countryside it's fine.

[-] Moonguide@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Not controversial with politically literate people, but bigots, fascists, racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc., shouldn't get a platform to spew their shit. Public or private, doesn't matter. And any effort by them to acquire one needs to be put down.

It shocked me when my friends pushed back when I explained why Rogan shouldn't have those people on his show with a freeze peach argument. Those people deserve nothing but a sock full of batteries.

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