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I think that the mafia uses similar tactics as a part of their defense strategy when on trial.
Holy shit did Fox News just intimidate a juror in a high profile trial?
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Other outlets including NBC News, CNN, CBS News, and ABC News also publicized details about the juror, including additional identifying information.
What the fuck? How is this even in the public domain?
I walked by a tv at work today on CNN.
They were literally discussing the profession and reading habits of a juror.
Big ass question mark greyed out female, and a host making the biggest deal over the fact a juror reads NYT.
It's fucking scary I'd drop the fuck out too. These piranhas are gonna oust any information about you for views. The news is beyond a joke, completely agree with you, how this is public domain and tolerated is more telling to our status as a nation.
This is going to be the delay he wants if the US media goes full OJ here. Which they likely will - some to benefit Trump, all for the views. Juror protection be damned.
Yeah it's pretty crazy even MSNBC was covering some of their details yesterday, but tried to scale it back today. The reality is this info is being put out on the wires to all press agencies. The real one to blame it the judge for not locking down the procedures or how and what the lawyers can ask.
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Fuck the courts for letting public have access to that info.
Exactly, knowing ahead of time all of this should have been sealed by default. Anytime the defendant/case is this high profile the whole thing should be sealed off to contain this circus.
It doesn't matter. Trump will literally call them out himself. And nothing will happen when he does.
The system is broken. It is not breaking, it is fucking BROKEN.
It doesn't sound like it was released.
It seems like stuff from jury selection questions that some court audience members noted. The court already blocked recording.
They remove the audience, but that's a double-edged sword since no public transparency even for reporters would fuel all of the conspiracy crap and there would be no information available to debunk. This is Trumps wet dream. Being able to spout pure fantasy with nobody to rebut.
Best solution would be for the judge to clamp down to say that he will charge anyone who leaks any jury info with contempt.
The judge may have been anticipating this media circus. Now there's a clear reason to remove the audience, so it's safer.
Trump was going to spout lies and nonsense no matter what, and the people who believe him now will believe him no matter what. My money says the judge just wanted an excuse--and we'll see a complete lockdown with no audience from now on.
Well, they have now made it where the employment and past employment questions stricken from the record and have instructed all media not to report the answers to those portions of the questionnaire. That's what she felt identified her.
But I agree in spirit.
Why is the press even in the room or present in any way when that information is being discussed
Because generally these things wouldn't be a problem. Except that trump and his followers have a history of grasping at every straw, defaming anyone they can, and getting people hurt for no good reason.
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If the courts don't immediately arrest and charge this person with juror intimidation/tampering then it's all over. The fascist mob will figure out who the jurors are and threaten their families en masse because there will be no consequences.
Conservatives will do more than threaten. They are all bloodthirsty pieces of shit.
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At what point does this become jury tampering? Veiled threats should never be taken lightly, especially since Fox is an entertainment organization and not news, as they've argued in court previously.
How the fuck is this legal?
If they face no consequences, it’s legal! Ish. Y’know.
Anything that doesn't have consequences is legal.
If it has a financial, is cost of doing business, not illegal at all.
Because the goal is to declare this a mistrial. Break as many rules as possible, get thrown in contempt, etc. Because those will be MUCH smaller penalties/fines and will drag out the clock until after the election.
Whereas grinning and bearing it lets the courts actually try to get some semblance of justice.
Using terrorism to protect a criminal (again). The Republican Party cannot possibly be redeemed.
All according to plan.
If they get one or two of these Jurors KILLED they're going to get a VERY STERN letter from the Judge!
I've read that Jury Tampering has a very low bar in New York. Pretty sure Watters just crossed it.
So 90% of a jury of his peers fucking hate him, and will conclude he did the crime. Oh my God, sounds like he's going to jail. You really need to keep churning the group until you find the select few who think he's innocent of a crime? The obviousness says something.
And, no, haters, this is not what jury selection looks like. 10 years as a trial lawyer, and never ONCE were any of my selections broadcast on TV. This shit should illegal.
I'm just a middle aged white guy and I know this isn't normal because it's never happened in my life unless the news is talking about jury tampering that already happened.
Watters has alleged without evidence that "liberal activists" are lying to get on the jury, a claim that Trump himself has repeated on Truth Social, potentially violating a gag order.
It's like they saw Trump, Giuliani and Alex Jones all get absolutely fucked in court for defamation, contemplated their own settlement with Dominion and the 2.7 billion dollar lawsuit pending from Smartmatic, and said to themselves "now seems like a good time to endanger innocent people by spewing inflammatory bullshit."
Not that I expect them to learn a lesson if they aren't bankrupted or actually sent to prison.
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This Watters dude is so smug. I hate his guts. His existence bothers me.
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I can't help but contemplate that jurors are concerned about being publicly identified in a case involving a former president. Typically, you would only see that happen in a case involving violent organized crime.
Violent organized crime
Yeah, like Jan 6th
I would be fucking THRILLED if the judge puts a universal gag order on publication of ANY juror details.
I'm not usually a fan of jailing the press, but the judge should ABSOLUTELY put out a warrant in this case.
Jury intimidation cannot be tolerated in the slightest.
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Does this kind of jury tampering increase the risk of a mistrial?
I wonder why they don't just clear the courtroom of reporters during juror selection and let them back in for the actual trial.
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