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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/risa@startrek.website

So I'm watching TOS for the first time... (have alreay watched all show from TNG to DISC quite a while ago and yes, my fav is DS9 followed by TNG) and have just started "The Enemy Within"

Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went "wait... d-did they make Kirk hot?"

that's it, that's the post. It's mostly a /hj (I hope (?))

(just has the vibe of queercoding a villain having the opposite effect)

EDIT: I have now seen the following sexual assault scene, wtf

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[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 year ago

Queercoding villains to make them seem dangerous and deviant to the people of the time (and those that are still stuck in that time). Admittedly, the people making that decision probably weren't conscious of that being why they thought eyeliner made him look villainous.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

For me it's a simple makeup effect to show unmitigated sleep loss from the intrusive voices.

[-] Haus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Is Ming the Merciless an example of this?

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

No but Ming the Fabulous is.

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The abominable Dr. Phibes also loves his makeup.

[-] jlow@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that what I was thinking as well.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Makes sense, tho as you said I wouldn't suggest bad intentions/faith of anyone in the team behind Star Trek (except fucking Berman, obsly), since I see it as a deeply progressive (not in the lib way) show

[-] kbal@fedia.io 31 points 1 year ago

... because they had to make him distinguishable from normal Kirk but hadn't yet settled on the convention of just giving him a goatee?

[-] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Could also have been to make the difference more subtle, since they're different parts of the same person, rather than being two separate people like the goatee counterparts are.

[-] frosty99c@midwest.social 30 points 1 year ago
[-] TheHottub@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They were going for gasps.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Gives him dark eyes, as opposed to the bright/spotlit eyes on good Kirk? So you can immediately tell there's a difference between the two.

Idk why but my shitpost-ridden brain instantly went "wait... d-did they make Kirk hot?"

Depending on your taste/sexuality, they arguably do that most of the time. The man seems to have shirts made of tissue paper.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Eye shadow makes you more attractive, it's just a fact.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

Also this doggo is absolutely adorable in that costume

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen that episode, but now forever in my mind Evil Kirk is redeemed by the unstoppable power of doggy love. "I hate everything! Except maybe this dog. Actually, this dog rocks....do I really hate everything?"

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Also this doggo is absolutely adorable in that costume

The wrong two of those actors are dead. ☹️
It should have been Shatner, twice.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Leonard Nimoy and the animal actor who portrayed the Alfa 177 canine (in all likelyhood) are both dead.

I would prefer a world where a cute happy dog and Leonard Nimoy were still with us and William Shatner had died, twice.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

A large part of how we read emotions in other people is by looking at subtleties in their eyes. How open or closed, changes in shape that give away if they're telling the truth, etc.

In media, they often use dark makeup around the eyes, a shadow, or something like dark sunglasses as shorthand to show that a character is mysterious and hard to read, therefore possibly dangerous.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

but that just makes them hotter lol

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Hot people can also be evil

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

don't you dare bring logic into the house of ~~God~~ Star Trek shitposts

[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Probably the same reason that they make vampires sexy - the allure of the forbidden. Mr. Evil Kirk is the poisoned fruit.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~I'm sorry daddy, I have been a bad girl~~

forgive me father for I have sinned

[-] zaphod@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

Btw that sexual assault scene is even more fucked up when you learn that Grace Lee Whitney was sexually assaulted by an unnamed executive associated with the series...

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 11 months ago

So you know he's evil without a goatee.

[-] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm imagining William Shatner stumbling on this thread and having a fit of villanous laughter.

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