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Tesla lays off 'more than 10%' of its global workforce (electrek.co)
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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 89 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I hate when companies say they're "forced" to do layoffs. Elon could easily pay six figure salaries to 14,000 people for over a decade before he noticed even the slightest change to his net worth. What they really mean is that by upending the lives of 14,000 families, they're hoping to get a temporary bump in the stock price this quarter so they can buy another yacht.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Avoid Musk at all costs.

It would be embarassing to drive a Tesla today, especially for the demographic that would buy these EVs.

You see one driving and you know the driver is a uninformed douchebag.

[-] pelotron@midwest.social 23 points 7 months ago

TBF they could have bought it before we knew he was crazy.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 7 months ago

15th July 2018

That's when Musk called a diver who'd just rescued a bunch of kids, a paedophile after he showed up his magical cave diving robot that wouldn't fit in the cave.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 months ago

Engineers have been calling him out for a decade, it’s just people told us “shut up, nerd! Elon is smarter than all of you! You are just jealous!”

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[-] capem@startrek.website 7 points 7 months ago

TBF, Musk's saneness should have no impact on your car-buying decisions.

Get the best product for the money you spend.

[-] Mora@pawb.social 17 points 7 months ago

So, as before, no Tesla.

[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If I had to buy a new car today, I’d get a Rivian.

But personally, I’m holding out for Aptera. A car so exceptionally efficient that - for my needs - may never need to be plugged in? Yes, please.

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[-] survirtual@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Embarrassing? Tesla single handedly showed an alternative to oil-based vehicles with an absolutely superior machine. I put 200,000 miles on my Tesla model 3 driving it off road to some of the most remote places in the US, and it never broke a sweat. It was the first car that could keep up with my adventure spirit. If a traditional manufacturer made this machine it would have cost $300,000 for what it can do.

While you are here buying in to big oil brain washing, this company has single handedly done more in the war against climate change, and dystopian hellscape oil/based economies like Saudi Arabia, than any other company in history.

Musk might be autistic and have a lot of dumb ideas he can't keep contained but he undeniably has a better vision for what technology the public has access to. A single person's personality is such a dumb reason to support oil companies, with the blood of millions on their hands, and possibly the end of this planet. Keep drinking the koolaide, though!

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 35 points 7 months ago

No they didn’t. No one here loves big oil. There are other companies that make better EVs.

[-] capem@startrek.website 19 points 7 months ago

Tesla single handedly showed an alternative to oil-based vehicles with an absolutely superior machine.

EVs were around before Tesla. Tesla just made them cool because dudebros got suckered into investing in it.

[-] survirtual@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

EVs were trash before Tesla. It was just virtue signaling and controlled opposition. Tesla made them a real alternative to ICE cars.

[-] atthecoast@feddit.nl 8 points 7 months ago

There’s a documentary called Who Killed the Electric Car disproving your point https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

[-] ImADifferentBird 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The sheer ableism of assuming Musk is autistic just because he's a Nazi asshole... What a insult to autistic people.

[-] survirtual@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Musk is absolutely autistic.

[-] ImADifferentBird 4 points 7 months ago

You got anything to back that up, besides speculation and ableism?

[-] survirtual@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago
[-] ImADifferentBird 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for that. Sorry for being so aggressive there. I had just come from a discussion on another site where someone tried to insult Musk by calling him autistic because of the way he walks, and I carried some of that anger over here.

[-] survirtual@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Hey, no worries. It happens to the best of us, and it's really big of you to admit that and recognize it in yourself.

I wasn't saying he is autistic as an insult (I'm also a bit neurodivergent), more recognizing his disabilities and acknowledging that his masking may result in some socially unacceptable characteristics. It is also really easy to be misunderstood and then find yourself in a socially difficult quagmire. It happens to me all the time and I don't have a billion eyeballs watching my every move. I summarize this by calling it "dumb", which again, I don't mean as insulting.

I do think when you create something as valuable as something like Tesla, you should be held to a higher standard and not jeopardize the mission as a public figure being controversial. If you can't contain that, then you hire people to lead the company who can.

Anyway, I appreciate you. Thanks for the civility. We are all on this planet growing together, I much prefer being friendly, patient, and understanding.

[-] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I mean he said he's on the spectrum when he hosted SNL two years ago. Given his track record that probably means he isn't, but don't worry it's coming in the next firmware update.

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[-] Lightborne@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Tesla single handedly showed an alternative to oil-based vehicles with an absolutely superior machine.

Keep drinking the koolaide, though!

lol

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 7 months ago

If you could have stopped at the first paragraph I would have upvoted you. I actually had to remove my upvote. Why did you feel it was so important to attack a stranger on the internet, it destroyed the credibility of your initial statement?

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[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Most people (especially outside the US) don't give a fuck about Elon and his politics, at the end of the day they'll buy the car which fits their needs the most within the price range they can afford. And yeah Teslas have issues but my friends who own one are very happy with them.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

my friends who own one are very happy with them.

That's because the people who don't like them get rid of them. Their reviews are not good when compared to other vehicles in the same category. The Cybertruck is last in class (not first, last) in all categories except acceleration.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well I don't know/care, I'm not really interested in cars (and I for one wouldn't buy a Tesla due to Elon Musk's assholery alone). But my friends are, and after thoroughly evaluating the options available here in France they went with Tesla, and they don't seem to regret it.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

That's dumb? You can get BMWs or Mercedes Benzes in Europe pretty easily if you want a luxury car. For BMW, you can get an electric i3 for pretty cheap ($15K in the US) or an i4 if you want a newer electric car.

Tesla is firing people for a reason. They are selling fewer cars because the competition is better.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

i3 is too small, i4 is too expensive to get the eco bonus so it's much more expensive than the model 3.

But OK I get it, you hate Tesla and you're an expert in the French car market, I'll be sure to let them know.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

But Tesla is priced like a luxury car? My point is, you can get everything you want better with other manufacturers. Unless you mainly want to suck off Elon.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

You clearly have no clue about car prices in France.

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[-] BongsForJesus@lemmy.wtf 39 points 7 months ago

While we don’t have an exact percentage, “more than 10%” means at least 14,000 employees will be laid off

Surprisingly I thought it would be a bigger number.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Rumors are 20% actually.

There are numerous topics over on Reddit talking about "laid off this morning". There was no warning, they just got fired over the weekend.

What looks bad is the absolute urgency and callousness of this event. In fact, there are various laws at the state level (ex: California's WARN laws: https://edd.ca.gov/en/jobs_and_training/layoff_services_warn), that require 60-days notice before a mass firing. So this "weekend layoff" is straight up illegal in some areas of the country.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago

Business have a ton of precedent these last few years that following laws isn't cost effective. The fine is far cheaper.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The "fine" is backpay for all the employees for months.

Its cheaper to not pay lawyers and just do the right thing, rather than fight it and backpay all of the laid off workers anyway. WARN laws are serious, and have serious precedent. You ain't gonna win vs them in court.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

That's never deterred Musk

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago

Usually you just tell them they are employed for 60 more days but are not required to come to work or do any work. Are the people on Reddit saying they are getting no more pay?

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But didn't you hear they're rolling out robo taxis by August 🙉

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 12 points 7 months ago

"We have full self driving TODAY, this is something we can do TODAY!" - Elon Musk 2017

Still isn't here in 2024...

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

there's nobody left to buy him out so he's finally going to have to figure out what step 2 is

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

Beginning of the end.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That should be useful for the UAW's effort to organize Tesla in the US.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Another bump on the way down that is leaving Elmo in place.

Tesla board, wake up.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

If not for Elon, I probably would have ended up with a Tesla for my recent EV purchase.

I feel sorry for these workers. I wish Elon wasn't such a piece of shit.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Folks waking up to the ugliness

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

If you work for Musk or Bezos, you have to know your job is not secure.

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