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[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 173 points 1 year ago

Y'all got any of them lockout/tagouts?

[-] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 121 points 1 year ago

Lockouts SMH. Back in my day, we just died. And we were happy to work on energized systems for a bee (which was the style at the time).

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago

You got paid? We used to have to pay for the privilege of being crushed to death at work.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

We have lockout/tagout at home

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Lockout/tagout at home

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago

Is there a charge for "attempted negligent homicide" or something? You did something so catastrophically stupid that was all but guaranteed to kill someone except you got lucky, but you still should end up getting censured so you don't roll the dice on someone's life again

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

No, this is a corporation, so unfortunately the best we can do is some tax cuts maybe a massive bailout.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Hey at first it said "only hit this button if you really hate Phil, it will kill him." but they thought better and changed it.

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

When preparing/working on a machine, TURN IT OFF. IT IS LITERALLY THE FIRST STEP WHEN REPAIR ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.

[-] Z4XC@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago
[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That too, but Jesus, how dense do you have to be to not even turn the machine off?

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Sometimes this isn't possible if the machine needs to stay up to temp, like with plastic injection molders. In those cases, the operation can usually be stopped by a padlock placed somewhere on the controls. There's usually training about it for everyone involved to make sure they know what's up.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

And if there're multiple people involved each one should have their own pad lock placed on the controls.

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[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also ZIPTIE it off

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And unplug it. And lock it out so some dumbass can't plug it back in and turn it on.

this is NOT tag out lock out approved holy fuck

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I came here to say that this is a fucking terrifying "LOTO" (and I'm using the term very loosely here) procedure that most likely will eventually kill someone

absolutely. I'd almost want to disassemble something like this before cleaning it properly.

That or have a very explicit physical lock out mechanism if it's something like a stamping press.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn't proper lock out, tag out procedure. They forgot the lock part and only have a tag.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Lockout? Never heard of him

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

why aren't they doing lockout tagout?

Because they're doing note out hope out. Obviously.

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can they not just, unplug it, and put tape over the power point.

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[-] yemmly@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

They’re putting a lot of faith in that tape.

[-] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Y’all need tag out clasps

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You lock it with 6 pad locks?

[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Just one padlock is enough, but you can use up to 6.

You need all the locks removed before it'll open, so you don't need to count on someone to carefully count everyone back in. You just make sure that each person uses their own lock

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I think it's so you can create "and" conditions for unlocking. IE: If you've got two locks, each with their own key, both person 1 AND person 2 need to unlock it. So you can have multiple people and/or multiple crews working on the machine across different aspects. Maybe one crew is doing electric, the other some kind of plumbing, and they're working at different times. When one crew finishes their work, they can release their lockout without making it unsafe for the other crew.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. Everyone working on that machine slaps their lock on it, and every last lock needs to be removed before the tag can come off. The welders might finish in half a day, but the electrical or water or hydraulic guys might need a whole weekend to get done, so this makes sure someone doesn't say "oh the lock is gone" and make mincemeat out of some dude's head.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thought so. I work around this stuff but my end of it usually low voltage/low pressure/ low risk. We should observe it more but usually we just have someone that LOTOs anything going to us.

But yeah, and for anyone else, repairs can wind up being more complicated than anticipated, parts arrive late, etc. It's not uncommon for these to be in place for weeks sometimes when say, electrical starts something, but then plumbing needs to finish whatever before the pump motor hookup can be complete. Before you know it it's 2 weeks later, electrical had a bunch of other jobs. The LOTO makes sure they come and inspect before unlocking rather than go "yeahhhh I'm pretty sure we left that ready to turn on, go for it" plus making sure no other work got screwed up (like a wire conduit getting drilled into by plumbing).

To be sure, handing off the keys does happen, but if and when it happens there's the weight of "by handing this off you're personally taking responsibility".

[-] waz@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

You’re entitled, usually required, to add your personal lock onto this when you start working on a locked out job, that way you can be confident they’ll come looking for the last guy to lock off the job before they can get running again, it may save your fingers/arm/life or job. Usually there’s a permit involved and you should know the conditions of the permit, or have your own permit to join a job.

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[-] MuAraeOracle@real.lemmy.fan 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

4th February that's an old note, better remove it and press.

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Had the same thought. The American date format must be the least intuitive, but as a nerd that likes to order files and folders YYYY/MM/DD is just a win.

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Today on hoodroolic press channel, ve haff an intern, a new intern who's cleaning the press, and he looks prooty dangerous, so ve must deel vif it.

[-] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

The real question is whether this was put up on April 2 or is a really old sign from Feb 4. ISO 8601 saves lives people, but probably not as many as proper lock out/tag out procedures.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

As long as that sign is there, don't fucking touch it. Go figure out who put it there and ream there ass for writing it instead of locking out the machine.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Greetings fellow ISO-8601 fan club member.

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[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

LOTO? Never heard of her.

[-] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Well, the button says “pull to start” and the sign says “do not push” so we’re good to start it, right?

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Lock Out/ Tag Out what? Just post a handmade sign, dude

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Maybe just a little push

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You could press it but don't

[-] froh42@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Was hat die Reinigungskraft im Kraftwerk gesagt?

"Schalt jetzt bloß nicht die Turbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."

[-] Karaatti@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Also the machine seems to be pull to start and push to stop...

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The airlock pressurizer is keeping them alive. DO NOT PRESS THE AIRLOCK BUTTON UNLESS THEIR SPACESUITS ARE SEALED AND TETHERED. You don't want the maintenance crew shot into outer space!

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Boeing? (looks like a flight attendant panel)

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