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[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 173 points 2 years ago

Y'all got any of them lockout/tagouts?

[-] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 121 points 2 years ago

Lockouts SMH. Back in my day, we just died. And we were happy to work on energized systems for a bee (which was the style at the time).

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 years ago

You got paid? We used to have to pay for the privilege of being crushed to death at work.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

We have lockout/tagout at home

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago

Lockout/tagout at home

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago

Is there a charge for "attempted negligent homicide" or something? You did something so catastrophically stupid that was all but guaranteed to kill someone except you got lucky, but you still should end up getting censured so you don't roll the dice on someone's life again

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

No, this is a corporation, so unfortunately the best we can do is some tax cuts maybe a massive bailout.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Hey at first it said "only hit this button if you really hate Phil, it will kill him." but they thought better and changed it.

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago

When preparing/working on a machine, TURN IT OFF. IT IS LITERALLY THE FIRST STEP WHEN REPAIR ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.

[-] Z4XC@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago
[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

That too, but Jesus, how dense do you have to be to not even turn the machine off?

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Sometimes this isn't possible if the machine needs to stay up to temp, like with plastic injection molders. In those cases, the operation can usually be stopped by a padlock placed somewhere on the controls. There's usually training about it for everyone involved to make sure they know what's up.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

And if there're multiple people involved each one should have their own pad lock placed on the controls.

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[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

And unplug it. And lock it out so some dumbass can't plug it back in and turn it on.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 years ago

this is NOT tag out lock out approved holy fuck

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah I came here to say that this is a fucking terrifying "LOTO" (and I'm using the term very loosely here) procedure that most likely will eventually kill someone

absolutely. I'd almost want to disassemble something like this before cleaning it properly.

That or have a very explicit physical lock out mechanism if it's something like a stamping press.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

Lockout? Never heard of him

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

“I thought they said lookout. Like look out for the sign. Geez.”

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This isn't proper lock out, tag out procedure. They forgot the lock part and only have a tag.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

why aren't they doing lockout tagout?

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 years ago

Because they're doing note out hope out. Obviously.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Same thing I thought, unless there isn't a place for a lock.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago

There is always a way to disable a machine. The button has power. At the very least, the power to that button should be locked out. If it has to happen at the breaker, so be it.

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[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Breaker feeding the thing power.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I'm only replying for visibility at this point because of the upvotes and the dangerous scenarios that are being promoted with this advice. Breaker with LOTO would be more acceptable but even then I wouldn't trust it. People have been killed because something was wired up wrong and circuits were accidentally connected (meaning breakers off but currents still going from a connection down the line to another breaker, it can appear that the circuit is dead until a switch is flipped sending current and happens in home lighting constantly). Also, someone can simply plug the device into another outlet leaving them with a death on their hands.

I know it's dramatic and these are just comments, but something like this could save or take a life. I've seen too many workplace accidents and refuse to work in unsafe conditions or environments anymore even if it costs me the job. Last unsafe worksite I was in, nearly all of the workers walked out together when we arrived in the morning to start at a new site and saw what the project manager had in store for us (probably helped that the owner was hated and payroll had been getting screwed up for weeks). I'll never forget that day and still keep in contact with most of them. We are all waiting and scared for the day a mass casualty is reported from the shitty work they were trying to make us do (some did report it to the authorities, but never heard what came of those reports).

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[-] yemmly@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

They’re putting a lot of faith in that tape.

[-] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago

Y’all need tag out clasps

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You lock it with 6 pad locks?

[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Just one padlock is enough, but you can use up to 6.

You need all the locks removed before it'll open, so you don't need to count on someone to carefully count everyone back in. You just make sure that each person uses their own lock

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I think it's so you can create "and" conditions for unlocking. IE: If you've got two locks, each with their own key, both person 1 AND person 2 need to unlock it. So you can have multiple people and/or multiple crews working on the machine across different aspects. Maybe one crew is doing electric, the other some kind of plumbing, and they're working at different times. When one crew finishes their work, they can release their lockout without making it unsafe for the other crew.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Exactly this. Everyone working on that machine slaps their lock on it, and every last lock needs to be removed before the tag can come off. The welders might finish in half a day, but the electrical or water or hydraulic guys might need a whole weekend to get done, so this makes sure someone doesn't say "oh the lock is gone" and make mincemeat out of some dude's head.

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[-] MuAraeOracle@real.lemmy.fan 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

4th February that's an old note, better remove it and press.

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Had the same thought. The American date format must be the least intuitive, but as a nerd that likes to order files and folders YYYY/MM/DD is just a win.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

Today on hoodroolic press channel, ve haff an intern, a new intern who's cleaning the press, and he looks prooty dangerous, so ve must deel vif it.

[-] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

The real question is whether this was put up on April 2 or is a really old sign from Feb 4. ISO 8601 saves lives people, but probably not as many as proper lock out/tag out procedures.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 9 points 2 years ago

As long as that sign is there, don't fucking touch it. Go figure out who put it there and ream there ass for writing it instead of locking out the machine.

[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Greetings fellow ISO-8601 fan club member.

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[-] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

LOTO? Never heard of her.

[-] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Well, the button says “pull to start” and the sign says “do not push” so we’re good to start it, right?

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Lock Out/ Tag Out what? Just post a handmade sign, dude

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

You could press it but don't

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Maybe just a little push

[-] froh42@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Was hat die Reinigungskraft im Kraftwerk gesagt?

"Schalt jetzt bloß nicht die Turbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."

[-] Karaatti@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Also the machine seems to be pull to start and push to stop...

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[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Boeing? (looks like a flight attendant panel)

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