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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 207 points 7 months ago

Headline:

Arson is suspected...

Article:

Authorities say an unknown male suspect sprayed what they described as a possible accelerant on the office door, set it on fire and fled. They said the suspect remained at large and no motive had been established.

“A significant fire engulfed the door and part of the vestibule, impeding the egress of staff members who were working in the office and endangering their lives,” Burlington police said in a statement. “The sprinkler system then engaged and largely extinguished the fire.”

That's absolutely arson, and almost assuredly a couple counts of attempted murder....

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 75 points 7 months ago

omg

I wonder if somebody shot the guy?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Are you on an instance/app where images are default collapsed? Like a twitter clone or something rather than Lemmy?

Or is a giant image intentional?

I was just blocking everyone who does it often because it's jarring. But so many of you keep doing it so I wanted to ask if there's a reason or just why?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

On both lemmy.world with the default UI and on the voyager app, images are resized to a reasonable size for inline display. It seems like a defect of whatever you're using that it doesn't do that.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

images are resized to a reasonable size for inline display. It

On a web browser it sizes the image to be full size at full screen width, making it giant compared to text

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Must be a desktop vs mobile browser thing. Looks fine with a mobile browser on lemmy.world to me.

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago

I'm on Firefox. Images are always reasonable size.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

It looks like the image is 960 x 1080 so in browser it should blow up that large. Not sure why you have been downvoted

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 5 points 7 months ago

I have looked on Android Firefox, Mac OSX Firefox, Android Chrome, Mac OSX Chrome, and flipped from portrait to landscape, I checked multiple instances, and thereby multiple themes (my account normally uses darkly-compact). In several of these scenarios the image is resized to be "tiny" as in <1/20th of the screen width, and from there it ranges up to 1/3rd, or at the absolute widest ~3/4ths of the screen (someone else also replied to the person you replied to showing this screenshot demonstrating that width for them too).

Throughout all of this, the person you replied to has only managed to conjure up 3 facts, one being an extremely generic term "web browser", 1 seemingly objectively false ("giant"), and the other 1 at best seems unreproducible by anyone here ("full screen width").

In short, the person you replied to seems to be acting in a trolling manner, as in like a canonical Karen, which frankly does seem surprising given how clearly articulated the original message of theirs was. We would be happy to help them diagnose further but at this point they just seem to be venting - granted though, not so much in the message you replied to on its own.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 9 points 7 months ago

On the web UI it looks totally fine

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Nope, it's just that way by default. Drives me nuts too.

[-] catchy_name@feddit.it 16 points 7 months ago

FYI, when viewed from the voyager app the image is small unless I click on it. So depending on the app people use their experiences are different.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago

Connect doesn't even display the image

[-] manucode@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago

On Eternity, it's displayed in a size I find rather okay.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Houston, we have entered the Goldilocks Zone

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

I'm on voyager and it still takes up quite a bit of real estate. Wish there were an option for it not to open at all unless I tap it

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Takes up almost no room on my voyager, this is so interesting.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Same in Sync. Image is fairly small.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

We need collapsible links like RES had.

Show the link, then a little preview box we can click on to make it load without leaving the thread.

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 6 points 7 months ago

A picture is worth a thousand words. The AP article in the OP, right after the title, has a picture of Bernie Sanders, to help jog recognition and enhance immersion and feeling of reality, then has the wall of pure text after that - appropriate use of pictures enhances rather than detracts from the experience.

I too was put off by the constant use of pictures on Reddit, so I researched it a bit and found that millennials and beyond use pictures, especially the same memes over and over, to convey an entirely different experience than mere text. The memes speak to emotion and a shared set of experiences in this topsy turvy world. It being possible means that it works, and the more I thought about it, the more I came to appreciate it.

There is a second meaning to it: on hexbear voting is disabled and so they extremely often use pictures in replies to convey their thoughts instead of voting - but while on the hexbear server they are represented as tiny icons, like emojis basically, everywhere else all across Lemmy they are giant. After blocking the hexbear instance I have not seen much of those though - you might prefer that to having to block each person individually, see your Settings (not Profile), second tab, scroll WAAAAY down, to block an entire instance.

Regular pictures though, on the Lemmy webpages, likewise also do not have a way (that I know of?) to control the size. So they are all-or-nothing, have it or don't (afaik). Having them makes this place more welcoming, especially to a younger crowd, and enhancing participation helps the Fediverse to encourage a more steady stream of content and help ensure that it does not turn into a circle jerk niche set of tiny interconnected communities.

So, while a "giant" image was not intentional, an image was. Also, I only just when getting to this very paragraph in this reply noticed how significantly different the height of the image is when I have my Android keyboard open in my Firefox browser vs. when I close that, as would be done by someone scrolling. As I composed it, and chose preview to make sure that it worked, it was shown at maybe half the width and two thirds the height, but then hiding the keyboard it suddenly jumps up to full width and height. So that fact too likely contributes to people not realizing the full extent of what the picture is going to look like to others later on. It also may look different in the place it came from too, further leading to the discontinuity between what was intended vs. received.

Anyway I do try to use pictures, especially memes that are easily recognizable, whenever possible bc they seem to work better in the communication process (that is a 2-way procedure between both sending and receiving partners) than a mere wall of words. So you may want to block me, although I will preemptively say that I will miss your perspective across the Fediverse in replies such as this one, though ofc I understand that if it is driving you crazy then you may want to take steps to improve your experience.

Hopefully Lemmy or your preferred app (or some other one that you could switch to) will implement a solution that doesn't require massive effort and maintenance on your part to be constantly walling yourself off from what will end up being an increasingly larger share of the Fediverse as it grows and brings in newer and younger people, but for now the code is somewhat primitive in terms of such technical details.

In any case, I hope that this explanation helps.:-). Also, oh wow, could you imagine trying to have a conversation like this on Reddit!? :-P The technology here being far behind there does not begin to make up for the Fediverse being worthwhile, whereas Reddit is useless - as in even if I was not here, I still would not be there:-D.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

I can't tell if you wrote this wall of text ironically or not.

[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Where did you learn this communication style? It reads very much like you're trolling, or you're pretending to not be a human being or something lol

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

/u/OpenStars@startrek.website:

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Also /u/OpenStars@startrek.website:

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 1 points 7 months ago

por que no los dos? I aim to please after all:-P.

[-] chetradley@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Isn't this standard for journalism, that you can't technically say a crime was committed until they've been found guilty in court?

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 114 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure everyone with 2 brain cells knows the motive. Maga traitors did it.

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

d o m e s t i c t e r r o r i s t s !

[-] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

Likely, however, Zionists also don’t like him right now. A high-profile popular Jewish politician speaking out against Israel’s actions in Gaza? Yeah, there’s a lot of high emotions there and he’s probably made some more crazy enemies. Right now, I’m 50/50 on which one of these two it might be.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

The timing is what made me lean toward a zionist, since it comes directly on the heels of him telling Netanyahu to quit murdering innocent people. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a MAGAt, but I haven't seen anything outside of what he normally does that would've particularly triggered one of them.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

Party of law and order!

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pretty sure everyone with 2 brain cells knows the motive. Maga traitors did it.

That is the obvious answer, but until the investigation is completed and a suspect is arrested and charged, people making official statements need to choose their words carefully.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I read on reddit that they police have to be absurdly cautious about ascribing motive before trial to the media. That it can break a case.

But yeah we all know what the motive was.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

police have to be absurdly cautious about ascribing motive before trial to the media. That it can break a case.

That's exactly what is happening in this statement.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Cops investigating so they obviously have no idea.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 7 months ago

motive is unclear

looks at US politics

Is it?

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago
[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Yes lol. Do they hate that he's Jewish? Or that he's anti-Zionist? Or maybe they hate socialism? There's a lot for shitty people to hate about Sanders

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

A Jewish anit zionest democratic socialist, has enemies in today's upside down world.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 16 points 7 months ago

Is “Republican” a motive?

Can… can it be one? Please?

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

i would venture that the motive is likely, almost certainly. Political.

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