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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 225 points 8 months ago

The meme says "IRS", so it's obviously intended to refer to America.

But outside of that context, they'd fucking deserve it for their shitty dark pattern UX trying to export American tipping culture into the civilised world. If people want to tip, they can do it using cash (so the money actually goes to the person you intended it to!). Or at most, there could be a little "tip" button in the corner somewhere that then takes you to a page like this. It shouldn't be shoved in our faces like this.

[-] Taalen@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Live in a country where tipping is practically unheard of. Lately pay terminals have started appearing in restaurants that have asking for tip enabled by default, and restaurants often don't know how to disable it.

Well, at least there are some safeguards. I was handed the terminal so I put in my PIN code, not realising it was actually asking for a tip. I was pretty confused when it said "value too high" or something like that.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 44 points 8 months ago

Taalen's PIN > 0001 confirmed.

[-] gerbler@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

restaurants often don't know how to disable it.

The owners know how. They also know that by leaving it there they make extra money on top of sales. They also know that the person getting berated for having it there is the worker who can't change it.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I, an American, was ashamed when I had to ask that a tip be removed from my bill at a restaurant in Camden.

CAMDEN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WOKE AND Y'ALL FUCKING DOG OVER HERE

Pay your damn staff a good wage

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 8 months ago

Camden in Sydney? That's appalling. It's bad enough to be presented with a screen like in the OP. Needing to actually speak to a person to not have a tip added sounds probably illegal.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Camden Town in London actually; historically counterculture, but punk is dead at The Cheese Bar.

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[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

In most places even if you tip cash they are supposed to keep that for the tip pool and it is split. Often among the cook staff and other people at the restaurant.

[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Americunts shit on you when you tell them tipping culture is bad. Like, here in my third world country, where we all earn a misery compared to the minimum wage in burger land, we can say no to tips or just give a few cents or some more...fuck this. Food is already expensive. I am not going to waste extra cash for my food.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 months ago

Who the fuck defends tipping culture, you're just making shit up to justify your hatred of an entire country

[-] anonymouse@lemmings.world 16 points 8 months ago

I've seen plenty of wait staff show up to defend tipping in Reddit threads. They'd rather shame customers than demand fair wages from their employers. Or maybe they were all just bots.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 8 months ago

I think those people tend to make a lot of money off tips. There have been times I could get way more than you'd get from any paycheck a restaurant would ever be willing to pay, even with the laws changed for that sector, for "less" work. Depending on the place you work at you could have $300+ a night cash Friday-Sunday and that's me going back to what I remember from 12 years ago so who knows what they're able to get now.

I don't even make $900 a week now in a psudo-managment position in a factory. Not that the $900 is consistent there for those in food service, I just think that's one reason people would be openly resistant to the idea of changing how tipping works.

[-] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago

Plenty. I have had people tell me I am inhumane for criticising tipping culture, and if I point out it is related to the extreme class system and slavery history of America they downvote me to hell and try to justify that it is "land of tha free" or whatever.

They don't even have freedom from hunger or illness in their messed up country.

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[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago
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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 220 points 8 months ago

Little Bobby Tables says hi.

[-] bobbytables@feddit.de 112 points 8 months ago
[-] LordTrychon@startrek.website 13 points 8 months ago

You're not so little anymore!

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[-] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 98 points 8 months ago

the adjectives on the tip options are so weird lol What a shitty system to even exist

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 39 points 8 months ago

I want to know what it says under 30%.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

"Best Service Ever!"

[-] snowsuit2654 15 points 8 months ago
[-] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago
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[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 months ago

Thank you, my curiosity is now fully satisfied!

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago

"I'm drunk"

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 83 points 8 months ago

One day someone will use the SQL injection to execute code on the remote server to add message to the web site that tells the workers to unionise and demand actually fair wages and put an end to the whole tipping nonsense

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Please write this code and I'll do it ~~tomorrow~~ when stuff opens today.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 73 points 8 months ago

Jokes on you. Restaurant owner too rich, behavior is within normal range for IRS AI.

Though the AI is interested on how your bank account is higher than it’s supposed to be.

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[-] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago

Too complicated. Just enter a negative number.

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 35 points 8 months ago

No negative sign on the keyboard. But you can enter 2147483647

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

Risky gamble there

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'd love to know what this would actually do.

Edit: Thanks for the responses and lively discussion!!

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

its an sql injection attack.
its rather unlikely that it works in a modern app.

assuming this would work,
it injects a command in the sql database.

it is assumed that the app runs a sql querry with the input field as a parameter e.g.
INSERT INTO "bills" (item, ammount, tip) VALUES ("steak", "20,00 $", "content of the custom tip goes here");

the semicolon indicates the end of the querry,
so the the text would cause the app to run an unfinished querry, and then start a new querry that messes up the content of the bills table.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 8 months ago
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[-] diffcalculus@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Nothing. For one, it won't let you enter letters. Two, the table structure to these POS systems are more nuanced than a simple bills table with am amounts field.

It's amusing and all, but it's not something you can do.

Source: work with, and develop around, these types of POS systems.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 8 months ago

What code could I enter there to get them to pay me for the food? 🤔

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago
[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Negative tip value.

[-] tiefling 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wish 15% and 18% were options. Normally it's more like 20%, 25% (default), 28%, 30%

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

Eventually people will say that about the current options lol.

There should be no default percent options at all. None.

'complete transaction' or 'add optional tip'.

[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I hate %, give me a option to round up to the nearest 5. This is useful for my financial tracking, and I'm willing to bet a lot of people would like nice round numbers. If I buy a coffee or whatever and it's $7 I round up to $10, not because I'm trying to give a good tip but because it's more convenient for me when I'm sitting there doing my finances (I track everything) and while I know that not everyone would universally agree maybe they would only want to round up to the nearest whole dollar the fact remains I feel like most places would actually end up with more total tips overall if that was a one button option

[-] kalpol@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

Literally saw 25% to 50% range the other day

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 7 points 8 months ago

"MILLENIALS ARE RUINING TIPPING!!1"

-Some fucking article written by an asshole boomer

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[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 20 points 8 months ago

Now if I could only bypass the float only input field…

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[-] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago

Can't they trace it back to you since you're using a card to get that prompt?

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 12 points 8 months ago

In my country, we can buy pre-paid credit cards in the supermarket using cash. I guess that is still traceable using supermarket security cameras and facial recognition, but if you're attempting this, I'd make it as difficult as possible.

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[-] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Prepaid VISA gift card purchased with cash.

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