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[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 142 points 5 months ago

Is there any hope for me?

Yes, public transport.

[-] tiefling 59 points 5 months ago

Is this a European joke I'm too American to understand? /s

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[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 116 points 5 months ago

The insurance agencies really need a way to recommend the government take someone’s license when they’re a public danger like this.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago

Well they do give them a strong incentive to stop driving.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 66 points 5 months ago

They only give them a strong incentive to stop driving legally.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

And this is the problem. People who have their license suspended often drive anyway. Sometimes they have to in order to get to work because the U.S. has a shit public transportation system in vast areas of the country.

[-] byroon@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Taking someone's licence also gives them a strong incentive to stop driving legally

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[-] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Of course sir, you're new low cost car insurance policy is right through this door over here .... 🔒

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[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 110 points 5 months ago

Keeping people like this off the road is one of the biggest reasons why every place needs robust public transportation systems.

[-] plantedworld@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago

Bro needs a bus pass

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago

Sounds like my wife's asshole cousin who has been in so many crashes and totaled so many cars at this point that he's had his license taken away and has to get around Indianapolis on a scooter. And he's in his 20s.

I remember the day at a family function when the roads were icy him bragging to us about how he made it down to the function doing 80 on icy roads and sliding around everywhere but didn't crash. Seriously, he was bragging about it as if it made him Mario Andretti.

His dad is a doctor, so I'm guessing he was paying that high insurance for quite some time, but no longer. His dad also bought him a Cadillac which, obviously, he totaled. I love his dad, he's my GP, but he has a big blind spot when it comes to his son.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

doing 80 on icy roads and sliding around everywhere [...] bragging about it as if it made him Mario Andretti.

This, at best, makes him kinda okay at Mario Kart.

But even that game forces you to give up if you crash too many times.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

It's one of many reasons I can't stand him.

The fact that his voice has two volume levels, secretly mutter something offensive and shout at the top of his lungs no matter how close he is to your ear, makes me hate even going to her family's functions.

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago

bragging about that is like bragging about negligently discharging a gun in a crowd of people and miraculously, nobody gets hit.

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 68 points 5 months ago

So best case for someone like this: don't drive. Get other people to drive you, use public transportation, get a bike, etc. But this is probably America and that is 100% not possible everywhere. Or even most places.

There is another option: State-Owned High-Risk Auto Insurance. These are insurance plans owned by individual states. Because US states all require auto insurance to drive a car and because driving a car is goddamn necessary in a lot of America, this exists.

It's VERY expensive. Like when I was looking at getting good coverage for 2 newish cars I was staring down $500/6mo. Our state's high-risk was $2,000+. But it exists for people like in the post who are just too expensive for ordinary insurance companies to want to insure.

[-] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 5 months ago

At this rate I bet it's cheaper for them to Uber everywhere.

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[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Where on earth are you getting insurance for 2 cars for $500/6 months? I'm middle aged, drive a 10 year old car, and have a perfect driving record, and mine's about $100/month. I've priced the same level of coverage with other companies and that's pretty much what all of them offered.

Eta: I'm literally asking. I have no loyalty to my current company, if I can get it cheaper, I'm out.

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 55 points 5 months ago

I legitimately don't get people who can't drive. It's actually ridiculously simple to not break the law or get in an accident. I've never had a ticket or been in an accident. Closest was I slid on ice and hopped a curb once, but there was no damage at all because, get this, I was driving slow enough for the bad weather conditions :0

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

It’s actually ridiculously simple to not break the law or get in an accident.

Driving a car is absurdly difficult, incredibly dangerous, takes only a second of distraction to kill yourself and others and in general is such a nightmare that it is contrary to what you say a miracle that people aren’t crashing into each other all the damn time.

Like, everybody I have gotten in a car with for the past 10 years invariably will get stressed out significantly by the unavoidable chaos of driving enough to visibly become emotional about it even during a short drive. Driving is miserable.

[-] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can agree with some of your response to what was said by the other commenter, but my impression is that person was shocked that someone at a young age has been involved in double digit accidents that mostly sound like their fault. Some people really just are incapable of driving, though that shouldn't diminish that small lapses or true accidents do happen.

I would disagree that driving in general is miserable, though I'm sure this can vary by location. While i would prefer better access to efficient public transit (live in the USA), being able to get in a car and go anywhere is pretty freeing, provided it isn't during high volume times, especially on a freeway.

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[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Driving a car is absurdly difficult, incredibly dangerous, takes only a second of distraction to kill yourself and others

Yes and no.

It seems that most people are falsely convinced (or even peer-pressured to some extent) that you must drive at the speed limit or even above it. But you actually don't have to. You must adjust your speed for weather conditions, road conditions, traffic intensity, surrounding safety infrastructure (or lack of it) and your skills and current condition.

It seems that learning how to choose your speed is missing from most driving courses worldwide. Sometimes, road maintenance provides some advice on that, for example in France you have different speed limits for wet/dry road. But in other cases drivers ignore that guidance - sometimes highway speed limit is lowered due to lack of hard shoulder or animal fences but very few people understand that and most just ignore the limit.

And then there's your own condition - if you're tired, slow down, your kids are crying in the back, slow down, you're on new road, slow down, have a gut feeling, slow down!

What you're describing is actually mostly a case for driving too fast for given conditions. Even if you're not speeding but you can't read and comprehend signs, road, other cars, pedestrians and navigation - you're driving too fast, slow down.

So I think both your and OP's comments boil down to attention. As long as you remember essential driving rules and pay attention to road, surroundings and those rules it's difficult to cause an accident. But if your attention is slipping then it's a slippery slope.

And if you observe that you often struggle to pay attention to one of those things, you should review your actions and skills and apply necessary corrections.

Driving is easy in a way that it's schematic and there are not many rules compared to say aviation. But it's not mindless! You must think about your skills, capabilities and your state of mind and act according to those. In aviation pilots do thorough risk assessment before and during flight, and drivers should do that as well. What makes driving easier than flying is that when you identify the risk as too high you can just slow down or stop.

So to summarise. For God's sake SLOW DOWN! It saves lives.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I legitimately don’t get people who can’t drive.

Setting aside folks with serious disabilities, folks with long term mental decline, folks with mechanical difficulties, folks with rambunctious kids in the back seats, folks in neighborhoods with high speed limits and generally unsafe driving conditions, folks who have to drive through inclement weather, folks who don't regularly maintain their car's brakes and tires, folks who drive cars that have poor visibility (big trucks, particularly), and folks who just never learned rules of the road before getting a rubber stamp from a DMV that does not give a shit...

It's difficult to understand why other people don't drive as well as I do.

One sec. Sorry. Banging this out on my phone while driving and I had a whoopsie-doodle. Let me clean this up and I'll finish my post.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 10 points 5 months ago

Ok so obviously if you have a medical condition that makes you unsafe to drive, you shouldn't drive. If you don't maintain your car that's entirely on you. If you choose a car with poor visibility you're purposefully endangering everyone around you so you shouldn't drive. If you don't understand the rules, you certainly shouldn't be allowed to drive but that's a whole separate issue.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yet every fucking "car forum" is just filled with people who believe that it is their God given right to do 100mph+ on every highway, and that if you slow them down they are then justified to aggressively weave in and out of traffic.

Practice just going the speed limit. It is liberating.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 40 points 5 months ago

Maybe you should learn how to fucking drive?

[-] don@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

Pffft, that’s what the insurance is for, so they don’t have to learn.

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[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 38 points 5 months ago

Never thought I'd take the side of an insurance company.

[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

My suggestion would be to:

  • Move to a place where not driving is a viable way of getting about. If you already live there, great!
  • Get a lifetime transit pass and consider getting a bicycle
  • Ditch your car and never look back
[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

From the amount of accidents they have had. Maybe start with walking and see how that goes first before getting anything with wheels.

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[-] Vej@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago

I got quoted $840 a month for insurance. Clean accident history. Insurance is bullshit levels of expensive.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

As your attorney I advise you to buy a bus pass.

[-] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 months ago

How tf do you even get a water bottle under the brake pedal?

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 47 points 5 months ago

I imagine they're one of those people who just have piles of trash in their car sliding around the floor and probably dashboard too.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

It can be done. I drove Uber part time and a group of girls in the back decided why not drunk water bottle fight. One rolled under as I was going downhill. That is up there with one of the most terrifying moments of my life.

I used the emergency brake and stomped the foot brake as hard as i could multiple times until it was crushed then fished it out.

I no longer drive Uber part time.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Drunk girls are the worst.

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[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 24 points 5 months ago

So, basically, he had one accident per year. And he is not smart enough to understand that the universe is trying to tell him "Don't drive a car, then!"

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 5 months ago

Sounds like someone should have their license revoked.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

this is markets working. this is why we want police to have to carry insurance.

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[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Sure, keep driving like that, with some luck you kill a person. Fr walk, use bicycle or bus before that happens.

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[-] MrJozzBoss@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I don't think car insurance is your biggest problem

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Come to think about it I think the reason why us americans associate giant SUVs and trucks with safety is because we've gotten so lazy relying on computers and finicky cameras that get covered in mud that I personally feel safer driving my 56 bel air over modern cars because I'm able to physically move my head to see the crap around me not to mention the transmission being a two speed automatic it has a hard time getting to dangerous high speeds but I suppose that doesn't really matter when everyone else is blind quite frankly I would love a car with modern crash safety and handling while still having the ridiculous lack of blind spots that 50s cars had I actually praise the vw golf for having not only a backup camera that doesn't get dirty while not doing that stupid thing where for some reason a lot of auto manufacturers think we have a backup camera lets jack the rear seats so the driver has to use the camera that gets covered in mud or make the rear windshield flat enough to become unusable during winter thank you Volkswagen for not doing that with the golf I can have the backup camera and my physical neck to look behind me

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 5 months ago
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[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I saved money on my car insurance by not having a car. Who would want to leave the basement anyways?

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

We should get this guy in a smart car as an option on twisted metal.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

4.8 rating on Lyft

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