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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

I don't know why I was born transgender, but I have no secret agenda. I want my child to live in a world where they are safe and free to be exactly who they are.

Fewer than 1 in 3 people report personally knowing someone who is transgender. Yet the American public is saturated with viral social media videos and political news stories, largely generated by a well-funded coalition of organizations long dedicated to making it as difficult as possible for LGBTQ+ people to go about their daily lives.

These organizations proudly advocate for the abuse of LGBTQ+ young people through the dangerous and discredited practice of conversion therapy, and they have celebrated their role in influencing Texas to “investigate” parents who’re doing their level best to support their transgender kids.

They’ve succeeded in generating national debates about excluding transgender kids from school sports, banning medically necessary health care and even prohibiting restroom usage – all under a guise of “protecting young people.” But these debates are largely missing the point. 

Transgender people are our friends, family members and neighbors. They work in the cubicle next to us at the office, and they pray next to us in our houses of worship.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 10 months ago

Its so clearly a scapegoat. Unfortunately rationality is in short supply.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

There are so few that isolated communities can more easily demonize them and radicalize people against them as a social boogeyman and a distraction from the actual grifting and thieving and indoctrinating that is happening by clergy and politicians and billionaires. But people keep listening to what people say instead of watching what they do and allow themselves to be manipulated.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

We should make a secret agenda. On Tuesday, all the trans people will meet up for taco night.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Up next, in the news: Mexicans targeted by secret trans agenda! Shadowy cabal using southern immigrants to push for government takeover! Does eating asparagus turn you gay? Are Chihuahuas a covert ploy to further the feminization of our country? These questions and more, answered just after the break! Stay tuned!

[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

May I humbly suggest that we make it a taco OR hot dog night? I'd hate to force people into a choice that doesn't work for them.

[-] EmptySlime 6 points 10 months ago

I have no objections. A taco is technically a hot dog after all.

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

And a taco is just a open-faced sandwich folded over.

[-] EmptySlime 4 points 10 months ago

Is a taco an open-faced sandwich? Or does an open-faced sandwich become a taco when you pick it up and fold it over to eat it?

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Welp, you've effectively started a religious war. Great. 🤣

[-] EmptySlime 3 points 10 months ago

I prefer to think of it as... "Promoting healthy discourse among my peers." Keeps the mind sharp.

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It's funny you should say this. There's an orginazition in my home state called the Trans Advocacy Coalition of Oklahoma (TACO). It meets on tuesdays, of course.

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 33 points 10 months ago

Well, that's the problem. They don't want you to live.

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Outspoken anti-Trans bigot and Nazi platformer Kellie-Jay "Posie Parker" Keen has stated just as such on multiple occasions. She's talked a lot about "we can't let them trans the children," but when you press her (hell, even when you don't) she will admit that she doesn't think anyone should be allowed to transition at any age. She's also said that anyone who has transitioned should be forced to detransition. So... she doesn't like trans people and wants to torture them... other anti-Trans activists are shocked that she attracts Nazis and really want her to go away, but she's their ideology taken to it's conclusion.

https://youtu.be/JBy93QX7ysE?si=g3krNkO-xML144Hs

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I'm trans and I have an agenda that right wingers would find very dangerous.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago

nono, see you don't understand, the secrete agenda is living.

Don't tell the government, they won't like that.

shitposting aside, i like how it says "fewer than 1 in 3" which is incredibly wide, but i'll assume greater than .5 and less than 1 for sake of the argument. That means, assuming you have a handful of siblings, and parents, there is a none zero chance that someone in your family is trans.

Let's break it out further, at work, you probably interact with someone who is, especially if you work with customers/clients. Extended family? Almost certainly, online friends and acquaintances? You'd be stupid to think there isn't a trans person somewhere in that group.

i feel like that stat, and the next sentence "yet the american public" are in direct conflict, considering that statistically, it's pretty likely that you know a trans person, and considering that for something to be a massive political hot button issue on one side of the aisle, it would have to be at least somewhat prominent.

This shouldn't be a surprise, this is how this shit works. People don't like black people having freedom, suddenly the KKK exists. People don't like women being able to own bank accounts, suddenly misogyny is now a thing. Queer people exist now, why are we acting surprised with that phrasing?

Alright, enough of my autistic shenanigans, go have fun and enjoy something. It's good for the soul.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

1 in 3 KNOW someone whos trans, not IS someon who's trans

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yes, that's what im saying.

That's still a very high stat. 33% to be specific.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Its KINDA high? You do realize the flipside to that stat is that 66% of people dont know a single person personally that is trans. So yeah, theres a non zero chance a family member is trans, non zero literally means something isnt impossible, but your first paragraph made it seem like you were interpreting that stat to say if you had 2 siblings that there was a good chance one of you was trans, which is false

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

that would be how percentages work yes.

I do believe i mentioned that it was statistically possible, specifically, my point was that its very likely that you at least know someone who is. Though i probably did fuck up the bit about family lol.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Plot twist: the Trans Agenda is very similar to the Gay Agenda.... It was always just a Trapper Keeper. Turns out they just like to be organized.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Stop asking start fighting

[-] misspacific 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

trans people and our allies are fighting; that's why the christian theocrats are freaking out and using us as the threat of the day to drum up their stupid, ignorant base.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When we fight back, we get killed. (And then blamed for own deaths/have our deaths covered up - if you believe that Nex offed himself, you know nothing about how corrupt Oklahoma is)

Edit: that was meant to read “didn’t off” himself. I said the opposite of what I meant.

Nex did not kill himself, Owasso covered up the bullying and pretty much every state department is understaffed by under qualified toadies of Stitt.

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oklahoman here. I don't know whether Nex died by suicide or not. But on a local level, the Owasso (and greater) community hasn't given up the fight yet. Whether his injuries from the attack at school are what directly killed him or not, it doesn't change the fact that he'd been a target of bullying for months and that he and his family were repeatedly ignored by the school and the police, and then he was beaten in the school bathroom by several classmates. Since his death, our politicians have doubled down on transphobic rhetoric, and our schools are still becoming more and more hostile towards LGBT+ youth. There's a lot to talk about here, and local organizations have done a great job on covering these issues in press releases and the like. And there's still more to come; we're currently waiting on the release of the Medical Examiner's full report (unless it's been published already; I last checked about a week ago, and I just don't have the emotional spoons today).

Anyway, sorry for going into a whole rant. What I was going to say, in reply to your comment, is that our OCME (office of the chief medical examiner) hasn't been nationally accredited since 2009. So, um. There's that. ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yes - I left out a word and changed the entire meaning of the sentence. I do not believe Nex killed himself. I believe that Owasso Public Schools and the Owasso police were complicit and are involved in covering up Nex’s death.

I’m a transgender teacher in Oklahoma that quit teaching last year because I knew that if something happened to me, there would be no help and there would be an immediate flood of bullshit.

The FBI exists because of Oklahoma’s refusal to investigate the murder of minorities…

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[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In a capitalist system money is a weapon. You wonder why gay men have been so successful in shifting attitudes? It's because they have money.

[-] dandelion 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yet Caitlyn Jenner isn't exactly using her money to help the trans cause... It requires more than just money, there has to be a political movement and adherents to that movement who have the money and other relevant resources to effect change.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yet Caitlyn Jenner isn’t exactly using her money to help the trans cause

Not disagreeing with that.

[-] dandelion 3 points 10 months ago

Sorry, perhaps I positioned myself as more contradicting what you said when I meant for it to be more like a "yes, and" situation. I agree with your point about money, I was just thinking of all the other factors and got a little too excited XD

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

No worries. I know I'm stepping into a (rightfully) charged discussion here.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of not just history in general, but specifically and especially queer history.

You know the weapons that got us rights? It was horse archery, the doctrine of special forces, the 20th century incarnation of guerrilla warfare, and fucking bricks thrown very hard at cops by people with nothing to lose. This assimilationist bullshit is going to get people killed, and I might be one if them, so please fucking stop.

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[-] RedSeries@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

About what? Money being a weapon in a capitalist system?

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The first hormone treatment for trans women, that we know of, is from nomadic horse archers. The terror of the Eurasian steppe. We don't own it, but we were there.

The first use of special forces and high autonomy fire teams was not in world war one, it was the sacred band of Thebes, who were institutionally and officially fucking each other. No straights allowed. These guys, only like 200 of them in service at a time, absolutely changed the face of ancient warfare.

T.E Lawrence, the guy the offensive 'subby bdsm obsessed gay man who's too kinky to torture' stereotype was based on, invented the modern doctrine of guerilla warfare that firmly kicked the ottoman empire in the dick with basically no resources, then was used to successfully crush the most extravagantly bloated military that has ever existed not once but twice over the next century.

But sure. Begging, and having a big armful of tickets after the counter closes down, is our strength. Ask all the old German fops how that went for them. Hell, ask rock Hudson or Alan Turing; I'll wait.

Nevermind the history of queer militancy in the western world. The people who got us our 'rights' birthed them out the barrel of a gun onto the counter of a dive bar in a fucking condemned building, and that gun was pointed at a cop, maybe supplied by somebody's panther bf/gf.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

But sure. Begging is our strength

I would never suggest anyone beg for their right to live. I have no idea how you got that idea from what I said.

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[-] RedSeries@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That it's the reason gay men changed minds or something?

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

As long as the Abhramic religions exist the LGBT are at best a tolerated minority.

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