Meh, just put your question and wrong answer in a meme and post it anywhere, within an hour everyone will correct it with the right answer 😂
Or post your question with a picture of Kurisu Makise saying "you should be able to solve this"
That's how they got a 4chan user to post the solution to an unsolved math problem
What’s funny is that watching The Endless Eight already feels like you’re watching 93,884,313,611 episodes of Haruhi
I seriously could not believe what I was watching when I got to that part. I would start the next one thinking "there is no way... Yep, again". How did the director even convince people to do it?
Quite often it gets corrected with another wrong answer.
Correct. Always provide wrong answer. No one can withstand someone being wrong on the internet.
Obviously thats so wrong. The correct answer is to pray for the answer and keep taking naps until you get your answers.
Wow that's such a good approach :D
r/unpopularopinion might also work well
Hacker news isnt an appropriate forum for most questions tho, that one is valid
Yeah, this list of sites is making me think of asking for a book by loudly asking a library, a series of coffeeshops, a chud microbrewery, and an 11-year-old bully. Try quietly reading in the library first, I guess.
Simultaneously the worst and funniest feeling, is searching for a solution and most of the responses/results are to go search for it. If your answer is that searching for an answer is an easy and quick solution, you contribute to disproving yourself.
Skill issue.
most people don't know how to properly formulate questions and it shows. 90% of new questions on SO are just bottom barrel which is why the rules are so strict about quality.
Absolutely true, but it's also more difficult to ask a good question when you don't know anything about what you're asking.
People who know a lot about a topic can ask very good questions about that topic.
The problem I see with most questions people post online is that they make too many assumptions that their audience will will magically understand the context of their question.
Good questions require relevant context.
Determining relevancy requires expertise.
Expertise comes from experience.
No matter how many questions you ask and answers you get you'll never "understand" something until you do it.
Instead of asking questions like "How do I do X?" people should be asking "I'm trying to accomplish X, I've tried Y, but I'm encountering Z. How could I resolve this?"
I guess my rule is that you should never ask someone a question without first trying to answer it yourself.
100% agree, and the new question page on SO makes most of those points but generally people dont read it. It would be kinda nice if they integrated an LLM to double check if questions need improvement before they get submitted.
Especially useful when the specific thread is now the first result on Google.
Yeah this is one of the main reasons why Stackoverflow's question closing policies are bullshit. We're going to close the question so nobody can answer it... but they can still upvote it and it will still be ranked highly on Google!
Bunch of idiots.
You know the SO Devs actually tried to improve this a while ago - I think you would be able to reopen your question once or something. Of course the power-hungry mods hated that idea and the abandoned it.
At this point it's unfixable. They depend on their unpaid mods and they've already attracted the sort of people you absolutely don't want to moderate a site.
The only hack I've found is that if your question gets downvoted/closed you are allowed to delete it, wait half an hour and ask it again. Much better odds of success than editing the question.
Stack Overflow isn't a tutor site. It's a wiki. Its usefulness would plummet if duplicate questions are allowed, since that would scatter all the answers.
Then it should allow to connect duplicates as sub questions to main question which they keep as original, Wikipedia allow additions to articles after all, i mean if you comment your question under main question, who gonna look at that?
People do look at that eventually, but not as fast as some people want.
It's also weird to me that people seem to primarily use it to ask questions (and get butthurt about getting duplicates). It's really rare that I ever don't find an answer there (which often is buried in responses, but still). Like I've virtually never been motivated to post there.
Try chatgpt and the like, it's gonna give you same barely correct answers, at least it isn't gonna send you out, well... Most of the time
ChatGPT is give you general answer not the right ones from my experience
Sometimes you get the right answer if you fine tune your question...but sometimes don't
Same with stack overflow, in my experience at least) i just googled questions btw, not started them, so in my personal experience chatgpt is google++
If it's a question I know how to answer but believe it really it would take 30 seconds of searching for a regular person to find...
I'd give the answer but be a bit snarky about it.
Does the snark really make you feel better?
Honestly, yeah sometimes. It's my emotional reflex to frustration that was programmed into me by my parents and I haven't done enough cognitive behavioral therapy to undo it.
As someone who discovered my Type 1 ASD at 40, the gods know that I have a lot more work to do on my self-awareness and abrasiveness.
Not saying you should adopt this, but sometimes I read aloud what I type and imagine myself replying to a student in real life in the way of and with the tone that people sometimes have on StackOverflow.
My gut reaction at that point, usually, is to rewrite a response or post completely with a more generous dose of humility and compassion.
I don't always get it right, but when I remember to do that and read replies, I like myself a little bit more.
I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I realized that I talk to other people the way I talk to myself. This probably wouldn't be a problem if I weren't so critical of myself.
I think I need to not only put in the effort to reread the things I write when communicating with others, but also to just be kinder to myself in my internal monologue.
I spend too much time being frustrated inside my own head, and that makes it easy to use that same tone when I'm interacting with other people.
Thanks for sharing your advice. I think verbalizing my thoughts the way you suggested will be really helpful.
This probably wouldn't be a problem if I weren't so critical of myself.
Same.
I spend too much time being frustrated inside my own head, and that makes it easy to use that same tone when I'm interacting with other people.
Same.
My Dad's neighbors always say:
Hurt people hurt people.
And as a counterpoint to that, from Slavoj Zizek:
Never presume that your suffering is, in itself, a proof of your authenticity.
Just because we wrestle with ourselves internally, it doesn't justify our perniciousness to others.
Uncle Iroh nailed it:
Sometimes the best way to solve your own problems is to help someone else.
I just don't wanna sound like an asshole when I attempt to do that!
It’s not about feeling better. It’s about getting the other person to understand that Google exists and that they can use it, too. Too many people refuse to put in any effort of their own and go ask someone instead.
IMHO in that situation answering isn’t even the right thing to do, since it encourages that behaviour and prevents the asker from learning to find out stuff for themselves. Something about fishing for hungry people or so…
When someone is genuinely stuck, doing research themselves allows the answerer not to go down the same dead ends, which saves time for both.
If it's on Stack Exchange, you can help us keep the community decent by assuming good faith and being patient with newcomers. Yes, it's frustrating. And yeah, sometimes, it's basically impossible to avoid sarcasm and scorn, just like how HN sometimes needs to be sneered at, but we can still strive for a maximum of civility.
If all else fails, just remember: you're not on Philosophy SE or any of the religious communities, it's just a computer question, and it can be answered without devolving into an opinion war. Pat yourself on the back for being a "schmott guy!" and write a polite answer that hopefully the newbies will grok. Be respectful of plural perspectives; it's a feature that a question may have multiple well-liked answers.
Peple misunderstand “Closed as duplicate” as an insult, when it’s just the hint to look at the provided link. If you didn’t find the answer previously, this just means there are multiple ways to express the problem, which use different words and thus don’t all find the same google result.
It's annoying when it is not a duplicate tho
Which is quite often
That's fair, but if you edit the question to explain how it's different (without which, how could anyone even answer your question?), it can be (and often is) reopened.
But it's those people who close it as a duplicate and not post the link to a valuable answer.
You cannot even mark it as duplicate without providing a link to the answer. What are you talking about?
You can provide a link to an answer but it's invariably not to the same question.
No, it is always the same question.
... from a person sitting in a very different situation with a slightly different problem.
Some times the question has no semblance at all. Other times the answer has no semblance at all. Some times there's no answer at all. And obviously, modern SO is full of people that will just post a ridiculously incorrect answer. There is a wide variety of possibilities!
I remember being very surprised as a I followed one of those links and got the answer I needed. But I don't remember exactly when.
They also changed the wording from "closed" to "on hold" years ago, and I don't think I've ever seen the people complaining about the site take any notice.
It's because they don't use the site and they don't have a problem to solve. They're just here to complain.
As someone who works in IT, and specifically networking and security, the "trade subs" are honestly what I miss.most from reddit. Places like sysadmin, Cisco, Fortinet, talesfromtechsupport, etc.
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