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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 127 points 7 months ago

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for... An entire season of the Master Chief without his armor, having lengthy conversations and getting emotional about things he can't control. But he gets to wear his armor for the last episode.

...Who's Cortana?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

“If you don’t like the color red, you’re not a real fan of Blue” – Pablo Whatshisface, clown

[-] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

wasn't his quote actually more like,

"if you don't like the color red appearing in Blue, you don't like our version of Blue"

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

He's right, I don't like their version lol

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Master Cheeks does a lot of stuff that's against Master Chief's character, so it's more like "blue being painted red"

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[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 29 points 7 months ago

I like those conversations about how Spartans came to be and all, but jesus even the ones that do have armor take of their helmet in the middle of battlefield, because dialogue coming up. Hollywood needs to get over it's childish need of showing actor's faces even when the plot doesn't demand it, if mandalorian can do it, so can you.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

That was one issue I had with Dune (part 2 in particular) their faces should be mostly covered when out in the desert, but they just had to show their faces at all times. Still, it's a great movie but I don't get why that has to be done.

[-] Camilo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago

I tried watching it as an alternative universe from Halo, but the way they plainly portrayed the fall of Reach was so dull and fast that I had to stop there.

It was just like whoops, Covenant came, we can't do anything other than a dozen soldiers fighting in the city. Another planet, let's move on 🤷‍♂️

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I mean... there are much better halo fanfics

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I refuse to watch that show, I was planning on bing in it once it was done but as soon as I heard about the absolute disregard for the IP I stopped caring and every time I see it mentioned it somehow gets worse over there.

All they needed to do is space John Wick with just 20% more high level plot

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I read some of the books back in the day, there is definitely room to do a space opera, war focused scifi show without twisting the halo universe away from the games..... I have zero interest in watching it though because halo 1-3 were one of my most beloved childhood franchises, I know they could have found writers and directors who love halo as much as I do and would have updated and fleshed it out in a way that felt true to the games. As it is, it just feels like the show's target audience is people who don't really have any connection to halo which seems like a pretty dumb idea.

I got star trek on paramount tho, so I don't need a shitty Halo tv series adaption.

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[-] li10@feddit.uk 58 points 7 months ago

Adaptations are usually cash grabs because Hollywood is allergic to taking any risk or making anything that isn’t middle of the road, bland, mass appeal bollocks

“Lets take this unique ip, remove the unique bits and just have it be the same as every other shite movie we make”

They only want the name value and a guaranteed audience, sick of it. Make something new FFS.

Maybe I’ll get shit for this, but I really hate the whole “remake a movie but make the character black” purely because it’s lazy and makes it so you’re giving a black character a white story.

Take some fucking risk and make original black characters that actually represent real people and their heritage, rather than just wanting to remake a movie but mark off the black character checkbox. It’s a disservice.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Maybe I’ll get shit for this, but I really hate the whole “remake a movie but make the character black” purely because it’s lazy and makes it so you’re giving a black character a white story.

I'm white af so I tend not to comment on stuff like this but I agree. It always makes me think, like wouldn't it be more productive to make a new character?

[-] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

No, because that's risky, and lazy race/gender swaps allow them to play the "It's not a bad product, you're just racist/sexist" to both gaslight consumers, as well as explain to investors why they keep having massive critical and/or financial flops.

"It's not our fault (Large Studio Remake of a classic IP) lost millions of dollars, we made a great movie! It's the consumer base being bigoted! Please keep giving us money."

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

I was thinking this. I don't think other cultures even want media where it's an existing story but the races are swapped. They want original stories that connect to who they are and their experiences.

One of the best recent examples I can think of is Everything Everywhere All At Once. That movie was steeped in Chinese culture, not just a story in new york in a bland city block apartment with Chinese faces.

And it worked. The Chinese heritage and how it evolved into the American-Chinese hybrid that many first-generation Chinese families in the US live through was a central theme of the movie. The movie would not have been the same without it.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Speaking of gaslighting, anybody else really doubt the rotten tomato's audience score on "The Little Mermaid"? That shit is wack.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

Hollywood: Let's make a movie based on a popular IP, so we can get some money from the folks who enjoy that popular IP.

Also Hollywood: Let's change popular IP to be like everything else we make.

Soon: J. J. Abrams presents: Battletech, starring Gal Godot as Greyson Carlyle.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

I know this is about video games but... When Netflix made Deathnote it's like they went out of their way to piss off the fans. Actively spitting on the source material.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I liked Ryuk, but that's about it. I guess he's just good in anything.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

He was killer as the voice... But the fact that they made ryuk a straight up villain as opposed to the impartial observer that he always was was just another level of rage.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Mmm, good point, I'd actually forgotten about that.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

mental block lol

[-] Turun@feddit.de 28 points 7 months ago

League of Legends Arcane is pretty damn good though!

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Cyberpunk: Edgerunners gave me anxiety and made me ugly cry on multiple occasions

It was awesome

Edit: I still tear up whenever I hear the song "I Really Want To Stay At Your House"

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I don't even like LoL, but Arcane is great.

Same with dota: dragon's blood

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[-] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Ya at this point, I'm too hurt. I dont acknowledge the existence of live adaptations until the reviews come out. Have seen Netflix One Piece and HBO TLOU. Still have not seen Netflix Bebop or the Avatar Netflix / shamalonanon movie.

[-] pacmondo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago

There is no movie in Ba Sing Sae

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's amazing how a huge fandom has so completely shut out a big entry.

...Hypothetically. Not that there is any movie.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Netflix One Piece and HBO TLOU

Those were both great though?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

I think that's what they're saying.

[-] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Yaya i watched those ones once people confirmed that they were good.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

One of my dirtiest secrets is that I saw the Shamalang Airbender movie before I watched (or even somehow was very familiar with) the animated series...

And I thought it was fine! I didn't hate it!

Now, ATLA is in my top 5 favorite shows of all time and I've watched it like a half dozen times. Pretty sure if I went back and watched the film I'd hate it.

But still, I wonder if it really wasn't THAT bad if we weren't expecting it to be just like the show.

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[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

pretty much all adaptations Netflix made themselves are like this, right?

most on the nose is the Witcher

foundation from apple was disgraceful to the source as well tho (exept the emperor, he rocks it)

[-] vpklotar@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Yhea the witcher was a disaster even though they had a really good cast imo. There's basically only one company I "trust" to make a good adaptation and that's HBO.

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[-] deus@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I know Netflix adaptations are a meme at this point but they've been killing it lately. Just off the top of my head I can tell you Sandman, One Piece, The Last Airbender, Three Body Problem and Scott Pilgrim were all pretty respectful and well-made adaptations.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Last Airbender was more of a quick and dirty cash grab that they sucked all the heart and soul out of with an outright disdain for the characters and message of the source material. But at least the effects were decent.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Seriously? I really enjoyed it, and I would not describe any of the main characters as lacking heart and soul.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh yeah it was heinous. They surgically removed every character flaw and scrap of growth from every single main character. Instead of Katara becoming a master waterbender through sheer determination and force of will convincing Pakki to train her, she just becomes a master water bender off screen with no real training. Sokka’s ego and fragile masculinity was removed so he’s just competent, respectable goofball from the outset with no growing to do whatsoever. Aang isn’t a fun loving kid struggling to grapple with the weight of becoming the avatar and dealing with the guilt of running away from his responsibilities. Instead he just gets right with the program and has zero internal conflict because in the Netflix show they made it so he didn’t run away from home, he only got caught in the storm by a stroke of bad luck while out of a leisure flight to clear his head. Suki isn’t an intelligent and skilled warrior who organically bonds with Sokka after his growth from backwater jerkoff to humble and honest man, she just sees the guy naked and goes google eyes over him because he’s hot. Zuko isn’t banished for refusing to fight his father, he’s just banished for fighting and losing.

There’s a more in depth video on this on YouTube that Drew Gooden made where he makes the excellent point that Netflix removed every internal conflict and character flaw of each character and turned them all into perfect Mary Sues with no growing to do or conflict to resolve. They’re just one dimensional stand-ins for the original characters. Theres a reason the shows creators no longer wanted to be associated with the adaptation. All Netflix wanted the IP for was the fight scenes. Which are admittedly pretty rad in the Netflix show. But they weren’t interested in the characters of the show or what the show was trying to say.

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[-] MBM@lemmings.world 12 points 7 months ago

I kind of hate that Intellectual Property is a term that anyone other than lawyers and executives uses. Same as content and content creator.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

It's fallen into my lexicon as an convenient general term for something that spans multiple forms of media.

But I also agree that it feels a little gross to use. I'm blanking on an alternative at the moment... Franchise?

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

I have a conspiracy that it's part of a psy-op to make individuals feel like they somehow hold stake in the corporation, so they're more likely to support corporate decisions.

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

I thought the love triangle between Red, Purple, and Brown was a nice touch.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

I have simply stopped acknowledging that there is any link between adaptations and their "source" materials. It has made things so much easier to enjoy. Netflix Cowboy Bebop has no connection to the original inside my head; they just happen to have the same name. Now, I can simply enjoy (or not) the adaptation for it's sake. It doesn't have to conform to whatever my preconceived notions are.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Also one of the reasons I'm one of the 14 people that really like the 1984 Dune :)

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[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago

Sometimes it works well. I really enjoyed the movie 'Nimona' and found it fascinating as an adaptation because it feels like it captures the "spirit" of the original comic, despite making significant changes to the actual text (which I think were necessary to make the story work in this format)

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

If it was good enough to stand alone then it wouldn’t need your favourite IP

[-] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Does anyone remember In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale?

I rented that one on the same day as Love Guru and couldn't finish either one.

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