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[-] EponymousBosh@beehaw.org 45 points 1 year ago

Was "staying away from Edge" not already standard?

[-] darkknight@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

It is for me

[-] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I posted on /r/bing a few days how now you can't turn off tracking or history in edge but can't find the article and don't want to give reddit any traffic to check...

Stick to firefox.

[-] timkmz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fr, firefox with extensions on pc. And Kiwi browser with extensions on phone.

[-] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

why not firefox on mobile?

[-] b000rg@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I was confused by this too, since Firefox on mobile has extension support

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, and there are Beta or Nightly for people who also want about:config, or Fennec for people who want all that on a stable release

[-] timkmz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Its similar to firefox with some other stuff like a adblock built in. You could achive the same with the firefox app but its just easier to do it like that and add the rest xd. And preference ofc

[-] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Why not Mull on mobile?

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ridiculous.
Also, probably shouldn't use Edge in general. I only use it at work, since it's mandated.

[-] b000rg@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

You'd think that more corporations would be worried about corporate espionage through web browsers, email clients, etc. all being created by one company with a history of bad privacy practices.

[-] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Corporations don’t want to ditch their IE only intranets - they don’t have a choice but to use Edge for IE Mode now that IE is retired.

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does the thumbnail for this article appear nowhere on the page? Here it is.

[-] greybeard@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

My guess is that either the image was there and was edited out, or there is a metadata tag on the post that lists that as the thumbnail, but the page isn't otherwise using it.

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The tag is where I got it.

<meta property="og:image" content="https://cdn.neowin.com/news/images/uploaded/2023/06/1686566370_microsoft_shaq_meme_story.jpg" />
[-] drownedPhoenician@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Edge is just an edgy meme at this point

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need to stay away from Microsoft. Period. https://youtu.be/MMc5zgALLiY

[-] voynich@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

Edge isn't that bad of a browser. I don't appreciate the hate people sling at it without even trying it. It's seriously becoming a better browser than Firefox.

[-] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like someone has said, we're in a privacy-oriented sub so it's natural (expected even) to expect the hate. Edge/MS really is bad in terms of privacy. So I get the hate.

With that said, privacy concerns aside, I have to agree that its reputation is worse than it really is. I was pleasantly surprised when I tried it, but my standard was IE so it wasn't really saying much lol. It's getting bad with unnecessary features, though.

As for being better than FF... well, of course in terms of privacy FF is still better imho. However, I rely on chromium-based browsers for work. Some internal sites I use for work simply don't play well with FF. I do have Brave, but I sometimes use Edge as well.

Is there a good chromium browser anyone can recommend? Is Brave the best privacy-wise? Vivaldi?

[-] Mihuy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Brave is more private than Vivaldi, but both options are good. Vivaldi's main focus isn't really privacy though. Like they don't sell your data nor collect it (other than some info to see I guess how many users there are?). So if you like the features that Vivaldi has (which is a lot) then VIvaldi sin't a bad option. So really just test em out and see what you like.

[-] CheshireSnake@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I'm not sure I'll be using many of Vivaldi's features but it's nice to know they're a good option. I'll stick with Brave for now. Too many features scare me.

[-] avapa@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I don’t know… Leaving privacy aside (we are on /c/privacyguides mind you) it’s not that bad but it has become so incredibly bloated with features that I almost feel overwhelmed especially coming from stock Chrome or Firefox. Might just be me tho

[-] PancitCantot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I thought I wasn't the only one. Came from Chrome and Firefox, MS Edge seems overstuffed with news grids/headlines, Bing sidebar, MS "apps" etc. It is soooo unnecessary.

[-] Scaldart@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I'm one of those people. I hate Edge. Like, with a disproportionate amount of vitriol.

But it actually doesn't have anything to do with its functionality (though I'm not thrilled with the privacy concern OP linked), but rather the fact that I get bombarded with "IT'S BETTER IN EDGE! MAKE EDGE YOUR DEFAULT BROWSER! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!." It's the most asinine, annoying bullshit.

In all fairness, I did finally figure out how to make it stop. It's just ridiculous that I have to go through all of that every time I'm on a new PC. Let me browse the way I want to, damnit.

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I've been using it a bit since Bing chat came out (even though Edge on Linux should probably be like a crime) and it's pretty good. But this is a legitimate privacy concern that's deserving of hate.

[-] voynich@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

The concern about privacy is definitely valid, but I'm not as worried about that stuff as I care more that it works than anything else.

[-] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You're on privacy guide, so I think it's natural that people would be worried about privacy.

[-] fixmbr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're also one of the 5 other people who use edge on Linux then. I'm forced to use it for work and have got too used to vertical tabs to use anything else. You can fix a lot of edges privacy issues via settings and launch options, though sometimes they'll end up turned back on due to an update. I have a love-hate relationship and won't hesitate to move back to Firefox.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Brave has vertical tabs now. :)

[-] fixmbr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Brave is run by a homophobe unfortunately so I don't see myself ever using it.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

That's very fair and a bit of a liability for them. It's a bummer.

[-] Mihuy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was using Edge before I started caring about my privacy. It's literally the fastest chromium browser and has a bunch of cool features. But as @CheshireSnake said, privacy wise Edge isn't an option.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I use edge at work only, where idgaf if they have info from that. It's literally just me looking shit up and accessing sites I need to do my job. My coworkers also use edge because it's faster than Chrome and all that.

[-] Mihuy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I mean I'm not surprised it's.... It's Microsoft.

[-] SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.at 10 points 1 year ago

My god! Being based on chromium and developed by Microsoft were already 2 reasons to stay away. Why would they feel the need to send viewed images back to Microsoft?

I wonder if this includes private images from iCloud/google photos.

[-] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

you might want to actually read the article

[-] chika@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago

Why are we trusting Microsoft for anything privacy related? Lol

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

What do you expect from Microsoft, really?

[-] darkknight@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I've only ever used edge to download another browser or when on a clients server. Edge works ok, but I would never use it as my daily browser.

[-] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I always use a combination of LibreWolf or Ungoogled Chromium for websites that don't work in LW, but my work insists we use and recommend Edge, their reason being that if a user has trouble in Edge we should know how to fix it, especially as it's the browser we should be recommending.

Good to know I need to be especially careful of what I view on Edge now though.. Yikes.

[-] ndr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As long as that feature can be disabled, which also clearly states that it sends stuff to Microsoft, I don’t see the big problem. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that there are many features enabled by default of dubious privacy.

[-] Eke@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

it doesn't make any difference because no one uses it anyway. am I right?

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

~~i hate to be that guy but~~ linux is worth the switch

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