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That wouldn't have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔
Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.
You saying this in this scenario is the reason why we're so divided. You try to pervert fair arguments and make them seem absurd.
These are not the issues the democrats are targeting in wanting to solve when they want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.
If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?
I don't hear a lot about 3-year-olds stabbing 1-year-olds. I do hear a lot about toddlers getting guns and shooting other kids...
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want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.
I say F the 2nd. And it was gun rights advocates who radicalized me, not Democrats.
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Whats the "fair argument"? You need more guns to prevent more shootings? Do you realise how dumb this is?
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lock the parents up and get that kid some lifelong counseling.
as a gun owner... I find not locking up your weapons abhorrent.
as a non American I find owning guns abhorrent but to each their own
As a hunter I own quite a few, but guess what? They are all fucking locked up in a safe and I don’t have any children, just my wife and I. How anyone could have children and think it’s ok to leave a firearm around is asinine.
I took away my son's bb and pellet guns because I caught him waving his rifle around like a toy.
"But it wasn't loaded!"
"Then you obviously forgot or ignored the very first thing I taught you."
There are several reasons go own a gun in the US. Should we have as many as we do? Absolutely not. But we have a lot of wild and dangerous animals and you don't have to get far from a city center to encounter them. We also have several invasive species we keep down via strategic hunting. Feral pigs being one of them. They're very dangerous and near impossible to get rid of once they're there.
The US could definitely do with at least having the Canadian system where guns are highly tracked by the government (and they should be), but until i don't see coyotes and random bullshit like that wandering around my suburban area, I still guy why you'd want one. I say this as someone who had never owned a gun, nor wants to own one for various reasons.
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As an Italian surrounded by guns who has them and hates them but might need to ruin my life by defending myself against a crazed neighbor... They're abhorrent. There's no good that comes from a gun.
Agreed, as terrible a thing as it is to happen to a parent it needs to be punished when this occurs. Someone was obviously negligent with a gun around a child. If it was put away properly this wouldn't have happened.
But how can i enjoy my right to bear arms if my weapons are locked up
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American solution: put the 3yo in prison for forced labour and arm all 1 year olds so they can defend themselves.
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the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.
IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.
IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no
No it's not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their "Eddie Eagle" program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they're unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.
It's like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.
it has been kicked out of schools
So, as @Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network said, it's a big no-no for Americans.
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Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.
You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.
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It's not immediately clear if any parents were in the home at the time of the shooting.
I guess it tracks that if they left a toddler and a baby in the house alone, they'd also be irresponsible enough to leave a weapon just sitting out unsecured and loaded. What a tragedy.
The only way to stop a bad baby with a gun is a good baby with a gun.
Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves
Trigger locks are not hard to get and are inexpensive.
I'm iffy on more gun control, but if there is something I'd want to do, it'd be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.
The average American is too dumb to own guns and I say this from a household with several guns. Seriously would rather not have them if that means idiots and the mentally unstable don't either.
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Reputable gun shops provide them free of charge w/ every sale.
/gun collector
...it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.
Pretty much is in the State of California. This is yet another instance of someone not following the basic god damned rules of firearm safety.
You can only do so much to encourage gun safety, but when you get to this point I think it's only fitting to charge the gun owner with a felony and forbid them from ever owning a firearm again.
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"As of July 12, there have been at least 217 unintentional shootings by children, which have resulted in 76 deaths and 149 injuries so far in 2023, according to a count by the gun control nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety"
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