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Anti-whaling activist Paul Watson could face up to 15 years’ prison in Japan if convicted (www.theguardian.com)

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[+] Hedin@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago

If you don't want to be hated, don't murder whales. It's very easy, literally most people do it.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

Faroese have hunted whales since time basically immemorial as people with more land have hunted deer. They are also allowed to, under international law, to hunt whales just as say Inuit are. Their hunting is sustainable, always has been.

The anti-whaling convention was instituted to stop commercial exploitation of the seas, to stop the great whaling ships, it was not instituted to stop people feeding themselves.

So kindly fuck off and I have a song for you.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

If there were a nation that still practiced cannibalism, should everyone be fine with it because they've been doing it a long time and it's part of their culture? Even if sustainable because they only ate the criminals?

Just because something has been done for a long time doesn't mean it should still be acceptable, especially as we learn more such as the intelligence and importance to the food chain that whales have. It's not like there are no other options.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Let me guess yet another vegan.

The Faroer don't have enough arable land for everyone to switch to a vegan diet. They could import the rest of what they need, yes, but their only notable export product is fish so that wouldn't make much sense would it.

And with "only notable export product" I mean "stamps are on place number two". You know, the kind you glue onto envelopes.

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[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Care to elaborate?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He doesnt like being called a disgusting freak for slaughtering whales, letting them slowly die after dragging them on land to maximize their suffering. Thats the only reason i can think of for why a faroe national would be mad at him.

I dont like him either, but this level of hatred only comes from people who got caught in the act and dont want anyone to talk about it.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

As long as you’re vegan or happy with being called a disgusting freak for eating animal products I think that’s fine.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not about being vegan or not in this case.

The Faroe islands have a traditional whale/dolphin (I don't remember which exactly) slaughter every year.
They drag dozens of them on beaches and kill them. It used to be one of their main food sources for the year, which is respectable.
But nowadays they don't need to do it anymore, yet carry on with this super cruel tradition.

It's a bit like bull runs and bull fighting, I get the traditional side of it, but it's something that should not be performed anymore because of the suffering and cruelty it causes.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

You are capable of subsisting without the consumption of animal products, and I assume you choose not to do so. You know that animal agriculture causes suffering. You choose your taste preferences instead of choosing to reduce suffering.

You don’t need to do it anymore, yet carry on with this super cruel tradition.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Please, go ahead, tell us about your grand plan of growing enough food on the Faroer. And then go ahead and tell other native populations all over the world to stop living off the land sustainably, and instead go in debt to buy HFCS from Nestle.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hey so there’s this crazy thing called a “boat”, and you may not believe this, but it’s like a big truck which can go over water. And you can basically put whatever you want on it, so you can grow fruits and vegetables in Scotland, and then move them to the Faroe Islands.

They actually worked this one out a little while ago, and they’ve got these big buildings now just full of food, just shelves upon shelves with all kinds of foodstuffs. I know it sounds unbelievable, but here’s a photo of a supermarket on the Faroe Islands!

A photo of a supermarket on the Faroe Islands

Now, I know you might be thinking, “well, hang on, doesn’t having a big boat like that cause climate change?” and the answer is “yes, but waaaaay less than animal agriculture.”

You also mentioned something about Nestlé HFCS, which I’m happy to reassure you about - It’s pretty rare over here, it’s really more of an American thing. We do have sugary foods as well, of course, but less so. But you can just choose not to eat those - it’s not like it is in the US where they put it in everything. And they’re not putting HFCS into the raw fruits and vegetables that you’d use to make a plant-based meal.

But you know what? Even if there are people living off the land sustainably - as in, fully providing for themselves and their families in whatever way they can without actively farming animals - and we’re okay with that, it doesn’t justify those of us who don’t live in that way to consume animal products.

Hope this helps!

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[-] Hedin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Not remotely accurate.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 20 points 3 months ago

What's not accurate about my comment?

Faroese whaling is a century old tradition that used to be about survival and used whale parts for food and other things like light, fishing material, clothing, etc.

Nowadays, we have replacements for pretty much all these things right ? Whale meat doesn't seem to be widely consumed much anymore, it's also dangerous because of mercury levels in the whales.

Yet the Faroese kill around 700 whales a year, and in a pretty cruel fashion. They force the whales to beach themselves, have their spinal cord and a few major arteries severed and left to bleed out and die over the course of minutes.

I'm all in for traditions but not for cruel and pointless ones.

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