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At first, I was pissed that he didn't bow out two months ago.
Now I have nothing but respect for the man. He realized when to step aside and let his partner take the reign, and did so with effective enough timing to throw a massive wrench into the republicans' plans.
If Kamala wins, history will see him as the kind elder statesman who knew when to step aside for the good of the country.
John Adams is the first American president to make unpopular decision and did not let ego rule him, despite losing him the election. Americans were baying for blood to go to war against the French in 1799 but Adams refused, knowing that America will lose if he declared war. It cost him his re-election, but he did the right thing.
Edit: wrong year
Nobody tell this guy about the Whiskey Rebellion.
Biden got forced out by his donors and other Democrats (establishment ones surprisingly). He would have kept running if he could.
honest question, are you guys making any headway outside of hexbear and lemmygrad? i mean i'm sure everyone loves you in your safe space, but you have to know your "vote josevlad marxtalin 2024!!!" stance is pretty laughable out in the world
You can't .ml Biden committing Genocide away no matter how hard you try.
So, serious question: Do you only step up to defend other countries, or are the people in the U.S., where I assume you live, also on the agenda for the evening? Cause yeah, Genocide is pretty shit. Evil even.
What about the black communities?
Homeless?
Native American?
Disabled?
Veterans?
Children?
And the larger issue of fucking fascism that leads to precisely what you're so stuck yelling about blindly?
Here's what I think: Most of you are parrots. Actual sentient wagons transformed into people. Many of you don't have many details, you kneejerk on issues that cannot be approached from any other angle than "Yeah, of course I agree" and challenge everyone who doesn't immediately bow with "YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE?!" as if you're the seagulls from Finding Nemo. Now maybe I'm wrong. Maybe YOU stand more often. If so, why stand with the crowd who will move on when the next big thing happens?
Never, EVER, remove support for the greater good when the greater evil guarantees more suffering. Otherwise all you're doing is becoming a part of the problem.
Of course i do. Which is why I will never support someone complicit in Genocide. Unlike the people enabling Fascism.
Your track record seems to have zero criticism of Republicans, when we know Trump would be far worse in supporting Israeli warcrimes. Just this once, can you come out and say that Trump would actually be worse for the one topic you ever seem to discuss?
I want you to think loooong and hard about what you just said. Really consider it.
You can look at their history and see that since October they've basically commented or posted about anything else. It's several times a day they are canvassing for "Palestine" ie. Trump.
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Very stoic in your support for Genocide I see. So cool and manly.
calling me pro-genocide doesn't make it so. no matter how hard you try.
So you don't support Joe Biden who is complicit in Genocide?
lol biden's not running dude. but yes, i was going to vote for him.
and no, you're not going to get me to concede that i "support genocide." ever. we CAN condemn some of an individual's actions while still voting for them, because that's the best (if not ONLY) path to progress
are you this exhausting in real life? does it actually get you anywhere? because it's not working here.
Ah so you retract all your statements about Biden and replace them with warnings about Trump being far worse?
Because unless you do these two things, your supposed support for Palestine rings fully hollow.
Thanks person consistently defending israel around Lemmy. You sure care about Palestinians.
Being dishonest is kind of your thing. That and obsessively smearing unrelated people for crimes they did not commit.
Projection is an art.
Right, yeah I have EVER defended Israel. Not just one time, but many times.
Oh wait, I never have, not once, and never would have a single shred of fucking motivation to ever do that. But sure, you're absolutely not lying.
So given that you're lying about that, why would anyone trust a single fucking thing you ever say?
You constantly defend them. You defend the people who support them, and you attack anyone who tries to stand up for Palestinians. I get that the choice between genocidal maniacs and racist religious nutjobs confuses you, but that's because the choice itself is a sham. You don't have to pick a side and pretend that they are always right. That's how they got you into this mess. You can have your own thoughts and ideas that don't fit into perfect or perfect blue. I must say, despite your vast ignorance, it is great that you are at least willing to talk with people who disagree with you and at such a young age, too. Certainly keep it up.
I know English isn't your first language but you do know what defend means.
Ah, I see that we've dropped the charade that you're not advocating for voting patterns that help Trump.
So what? At the end of the day he did what people wanted, it just took a demonstration of how badly we wanted it.
Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?
Just be happy he's not running anymore nobody's buying these fairy tales about how great he is.
If Biden is a “genocidal maniac”, what do you label actual “genocidal maniacs”
Are you denying Biden is complicit in Genocide?
If Biden is a “genocidal maniac”, what do you label actual “genocidal maniacs”
Are you denying that you have zero geopolitical experience whatsoever? Because unless you do, you have no fucking clue what Biden's options even are, being that you're a one note armchair political scientist without the ability to even acknowledge the most basic of realities surrounding the situation.
You obsessively post about this issue several times every day to the point that it would be weird even if you yourself were both a Palestinian and also have hard evidence that Biden himself pulled the trigger every single time someone died.
Your obsession here is beyond strange, and it makes it impossible for anyone observing to think something weird isn't going on with you
Because the alternative is they don't step down.
Except no, that's not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.
You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.
If you think Biden could've been forced out if he wasn't willing to step down then you don't know anything about politics.
I bet you were one of those people demanding the sergeant at arms arrest people who ignored subpoenas during Trump's first impeachment.
Do you understand how the president is picked? They need delegates to run.
Do you know how Democrat canidates are picked? Biden already had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.
What's "the hard way"?
Couldn't agree more and his words on the matter were really touching.
I just hope the party as a whole can keep this up. I have never felt like the party cared more about being in touch with the people than it does now.
If Trump wins, history will remember Biden as "the antichrist, bringer of despair, slow witted grim reaper, sad."*
*This antiwoke curriculum is approved by the council of Gilead.