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[-] Plume 1037 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to "win" an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 127 points 4 months ago

It's very true. We've been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it's mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

Y'all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 91 points 4 months ago

I think you'll start to see a lot more excitement in the next few weeks.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?

[-] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

Can someone find the "hope is kindled" gif from LoTR Return of the King? When Pipin lights the beacon of Minas Tirith. I can't find it.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago

"Hope and change" is back in it to win it.

Motherfucking Obama at it again.

[-] Marand@feddit.dk 4 points 4 months ago

Lol, Obama comming back would be incredible. Is he even allowed to? He already served two terms

[-] Osito@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

He's not allowed to but people are saying Michelle could be the pick, but that would only be marginally better than Kamala

They need Gretchen, Pete, or Kelly

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Jon Stewart. Someone go pull him and make him do it. There's no one better to take down Trump.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

He'd be miserable the whole time, but we'd all be better off. Please Jon!

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

I mean I'd love it and I'm going back and forth on this comment. His biggest negative is those who lean right will see him exactly as he is "a New York Jew"

That said, who better to trounce Trump and humiliate his ass? I think the only thing better would be Michelle Obama. Trump would lose his absolute shit debating and/or losing to a woman let alone a black woman.

Watch that fucker drop the N bomb in a debate against her lol

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

A 2-woman ticket would never work. It's going to be very dicey having a woman leading the ticket with a man as VP, given how sexist the US electorate is.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

What's sexist is going on and on about how a woman is unelectable.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Yes, reality is sexist. But, you can't just live in a fantasy land.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

A friend of mine was running a restaurant, and before a major business meeting, her 2nd said that he should do all the talking because the other party was sexist and wouldn't listen to a woman.

She fired his ass, rightfully. That is not what progress looks like. Step up and fight against sexism, don't concede to that shit.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

A complex vote involving an electoral college and an opposing candidate who is an open fascist isn't quite the same situation as running a restaurant.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

You, the French, have not been the target of a 40 year war against public education by the right wing. Americans are on average significantly less capable of rational thought because of it. Source: I am an American raised in the crippled education system I mentioned before.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 months ago

It’s a bit naive to think Western Europe hasn’t been under attack from the right wing at least as long as the US has. They’ve had wars over it that never really reached US shores, and it never really went away. All of the strategies that have been used in the US were piloted and honed in Europe – look up the activities there by Manafort, Stone, Bannon, etc. all the same names who have been implementing the shit you’re seeing in the US were active in Western and Eastern Europe years before this. It’s been going on there far longer.

It’s amazing to me that people in the US haven’t been paying attention to what’s gone on there and learning from their successes.

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[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Thanks for your support! And very happy to see your success in France.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

A "long" election campaign in the UK is 6 weeks. In 1992 they had one that was just 30 days.

Months is plenty of time, especially in the modern world. Maybe 250 years ago it was necessary to campaign for months on end so that the candidate could personally travel by train to every state. But, with modern media (both traditional and social), there's no real reason for campaigns to be as long as they are. The only reason they're this long is that the thought is that the earlier you start campaigning, the better. So, each side keeps starting earlier and earlier, making it effectively into a neverending campaign cycle.

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[-] Wiz@midwest.social 12 points 4 months ago

Thank you, French. You're awesome. I was losing hope, and yet a miracle happened.

Good job.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Props to the French voters for shutting out the Rally.

Most of the French voters.

Damn good job in the second round.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

We don't really do coalitions here. Our voting system doesn't allow for it.

It does happen within Congress itself though, when different sects of the two parties cross the aisle to join with the other party on certain issues. But since Congress doesn't elect a prime minister, it doesn't happen for the presidency.

[-] Plume 45 points 4 months ago

I know. You're missing my point. :)

My point wasn't the coalition. My point was that we had 21 days to cobble something together and not only did we do it, we managed to win with it. It's not about the coalition, it's about building a campaign. You have months to do so.

And you're about to say that Trump had way longer to do so. Yes. So did the far right in our country, which barely even campaigned because all of the media were doing so on their behalf for the last two years and we still managed to outnumber them.

Trust me, my faith in the Democrats is barely existent. But still, I think it can be done.

[-] Srh@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago
[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 8 points 4 months ago

Viva la France

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Well spoken.

A few months in politics is an eternity. Yes, things are chaotic right now, but this is short term. We can unify after this. And we can win.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago

It's a binary choice in the US presidential election, that isn't even based on the popular vote.

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

America has no left wing. The dems have now handed Trump the win since its way too late to change the candidate and Harris is completely invisible

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Lord have merci

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