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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 83 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And civil rights.

Plus sustainable technology.

And critical infrastructure.

Also climate change.

Taxing the wealthy.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh, geez, that one is huge. Great point.

160 billion in student debt cancelled.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

160 million? Th... That's it? I mean, that's cool, it's not nothing, but the top Google search stat shows that US citizens owe a collective 1.77 trillion in student debt.

He cancelled (1.6x10^8 / 1.77x10^12) 0.00009% of student debt. That's like... A homeopathic cancellation.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago

160 billion, not million, coming up on 10% student debt cancellation so far.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the clarification, that makes a rather meaningful difference.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

It should also be remembered that he's tried to cancel more than that, but the assholes on SCOTUS have ruled multiple times that he doesn't have the authority.

Of course, that was also before they ruled the President is immune from any "official" acts, so who know what Biden might do before November.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Sure thing, that was my typing mistake earlier, thanks for bringing it up.

1 percent is a rounding error, but wiping away 10%, 160 billion, despite the conservatives stopping him from erasing 400 billion recently is pretty impressive.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Why wasn't he able to cancel all of it again? There was some group blocking him...

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

List the best action he has taken for each of these.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 months ago

Civil rights - LGBTQ+ legal funding, protecting youth from conversion therapy, healthcare access, reversing Trump's ban on trans military personnel, housing protections

Sustainable technology - "best" is hard among so many, probably the 65$ billion dollars inveatment for clean energy infrastructure in the US

Critical infrastructure - the largest investment in US infrastructure in US history, over a trillion dollars resulting in over 50000 new infrastructure projects.

Climate change - again, the "best" is tricky here...I guess either the hundreds of billions in green tech, clean energy, mass transit, rejoining climate accords, increasing regulations on polluters... You can choose any one of those.

Oh and taxing the wealthy. Biden succeeded in that too.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 30 points 6 months ago

Healthcare - Biden limiting drug prices helps a ton of people. Also, trump pledged to get rid of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and replace it with nothing. So... not ruining everything is also good.

See that's the thing, Biden would be a better president than trump if he literally pledged to do nothing. Trump has pledged to make things worse, mostly for his own benefit.

That's your choice: a shit sandwich or... not eating a shit sandwich. Tough one, I know.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

You are weirdly angry that Biden helped a lot of vulnerable people through drug pricing regulation.

That's what I'm saying. You're agreeing with me.

Some of Biden's other first-term achievements(listed directly above) have been incredibly helpful to hundreds of millions of people.

Weird that not eating a shit sandwich is a difficult decision for you, but maybe it explains why you don't understand the previous comment.

Biden isn't a better president compared to dumps, he literally invested more in infrastructure and clean technology and climate change than any other president.

Biden has made and is still making huge strides in civil rights.

He's taxing the wealthy.

He's making a lot of progressive strides.

You even agree with that in the first sentence, what do you think you're arguing about?

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago

You're agreeing with me.

You even agree with that in the first sentence, what do you think you're arguing about?

So why do you think I'm arguing with you?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I don't.

You're agreeing with me that biden is a good president, but incorrect that he's only a good precedent relative to Trump.

You're very confused. Do you have any questions?

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

...but you said they're arguing with you, which is why they asked why you think they're arguing with you.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What I said is:

"what do you think you're arguing about?"

I didn't mention myself.

It's clear they meant to be arguing something, but if their argument was directed against me, they probably wouldn't have agreed with me.

If they were arguing against Biden, they probably wouldn't have praised him.

So, what do they think they're arguing against?

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

It's clear they meant to be arguing something

Right...

if their argument was directed against me, they probably wouldn't have agreed with me.

Keep going...

If they were arguing against Biden, they probably wouldn't have praised him.

Almost there...

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

You're stuck?

I'm not going to spoil it for you, maybe you'll eventually work it out.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It's OK to admit you were wrong, man. It won't actually be physically painful.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I'm very comfortable admitting when I'm wrong.

I'm very comfortable here being right.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're projecting.

But it would be funny if you tried to prove your lies.

[-] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I like the trolls, they are funny.

I also accept that this is often sound, logical advice.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I like the trolls, they are funny.

I also accept that this is often sound, logical advice.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

taxing the wealthy

^ That's the one that triggered the media attack on him.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

I agree that the timing is overly conspicuous

[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

There's nothing wrong with wanting supporting evidence for claims, but when someone says something that's very provable and common knowledge and you ask for proof - you become known as an idiot.

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lmao at being downvoted for asking for tangible examples. Platitudes don't win elections, folks. See 2016.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 12 points 6 months ago

Google exists.

[-] 5wim@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago

If you're curious about the downvotes, I would consider that it appears you thought you were "asking," when what your comment does is issue a command. With no other context to understand from where you are coming.

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