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submitted 4 months ago by MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Remember that these are the guys who said that they were preparing to fight UN and/or Chinese troops who might invade Canada?

Now their lawyer says that they were used for hunting? Was she taking about the pipe bomb or the handguns?

I don't see a single trigger or cable lock in that photo. Was the ammunition stored in a separate locked container?

These guys should never be allowed to own a firearm again based solely on the UN/China delusion. These types of violent collective fantasies are extremely dangerous and they absolutely should be disqualifying.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It does say hunting/defense. Some of those are self-defense weapons, and some are hunting weapons. It's not difficult to see which is which.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

If you think you need a gun for self-defense in Canada you shouldn't have a gun. You're more likely to choke to death on a hotdog, to drown in your own bathtub, to die from entanglement in your own bedsheets, from being stung by a bee, or by being trampled by a cow than you are to be killed with a gun by someone you don't know if you're not involved in the drug trade or organized crime. In fact, you're FAR more likely to be killed by or to kill someone you love if you have a gun than you are to be killed by a stranger.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In fact, you're FAR more likely to be killed by or to kill someone you love if you have a gun than you are to be killed by a stranger.

I'm pretty sure that's the case everywhere that has guns. Statistically, there's way more occurrences where there's a potential for death with people you're around all the time. Plus, there are a lot of boneheaded people in the world.

But to your original point, a burglar, or intruder, or stalker, or whatever, doesn't need to have a gun to make it a good idea for you to have a gun. Why would you want to meet someone who's invading your house on equal footing? The idea is to have overwhelming odds on your side so that you can come out of the situation unscathed. Nobody's going to see an intruder with a knife and go "oops, he only has a knife, so I better put my baseball bat down and grab my pocket knife!". That's just silly movie machismo stuff. You want as much advantage as you can get.

It's highly unlikely that most people will ever encounter any scenario like that. That's true. But that doesn't make it a bad idea to be prepared. As unlikely as it is, I know someone who suffered a home invasion in her 2nd floor apartment in a gated community, in the nice part of town. The burglars climbed her balcony, and threw her BBQ through the sliding glass door while she was sitting on the couch. Then they forced her onto the ground and made her sit cross-legged with her face between her knees while they stole everything of value that she owned. Would a gun have helped her? Maybe not. Idk. But the point of owning a gun for self defense, or home defense, or whatever, is to be prepared for the times when it would help you. Not everyone who owns a gun is a crazy gun person who makes it their whole identity. Some people just want to be prepared, and some people just enjoy the sport of marksmanship.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s highly unlikely that most people will ever encounter any scenario like that. That’s true. But that doesn’t make it a bad idea to be prepared.

It is an EXTREMELY bad idea. The chances that you're going to kill someone you love goes up dramatically when you have a gun in your home. You're not making yourself and your family safer you're making it FAR more likely that they will be a victim of gun violence.

Do you grind up your hotdogs so that you won't choke on them? Do you wear a life jacket in the bathtub? Have you stripped your bed of bedsheets? Do you wear a bee suit when you go outside? It's highly unlikely that any of those things are going to happen to you, too.

This is a riduclous argument. Literally worthy of ridicule.

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