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Steam allowing curators to promote homophobia.
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I reported them for harassment with the following statement:
The purpose of this group is to review bomb any game that has gay representation. Their discussion threads talk about using other platforms to discriminate against LGBTQ+ communities and individuals to circumvent Steam's TOS policies. This type of behavior promotes discrimination, review brigading, and toxicity. It is surprising Steam is tolerating such open homophobia on this platform.
It’s funny how they can never define “woke” when asked but have no problem labeling any sort of inclusion as woke when they make a list of woke things. To them, woke is just the safe word to say instead of the slurs they want to say.
Anything that isn't a straight white male = woke.
Even that's woke, according to their definition.
"Straight"—sexuality = woke "White"—race = woke "Male"—gender = woke
I guess games just can't have any characters in them at all anymore, in case one of them has a race or a gender that gets referenced.
Here’s the groups definition - it’s linked in one of the forums. Your instance might filter some words:
> Wokeness and left-wing: Economic leftism isn't woke according to this list, unless there's A LOT of unskippable leftism. Race (including unchecked third-world immigration and indigenous nonsense) sexuality (I'm a strong woman who need no man) and tranny (muh gender identity) nonsense (non to mention '''non-binary''') are woke. Putting removeds everywhere where it doesn't make sense is woke. On-the-nose allegories to removeds and trannies are woke (such as Deus Ex: Mankind Divided). Telling wokeists to fuck off is based for a company. Ignoring them is based too. Using pre-2008 cultural norms within the game that was released after 2012 is good. Obama is a war criminal as much as Bush or even worse. If you disagree, you're misinformed or a shitlib. This is meant as a non-woke statement. Excusing him on the basis of being a removed or half-removed is somewhat woke. Woman's suffrage from 17th century to 2023 isn't woke. At worst (in case of heavy-handed pandering) it's mildly woke.
Wow. I thought to myself surely they would be using some blatant dog whistle for the removed, but nope, steam is fully letting them rate games negatively by using every slur in the book.
This definitely looks much worse for steam than any of these sad, lifeless homunculi. I reported them and made note about how letting this group continue looks awful for steam and not taking action reads as endorsement.
If I didn't know I wouldn't get a rational response, I'd love to ask them where it makes sense for those "removeds" to be. Especially in fantasy games.
Are the 'removed's n-bombs?
Yes.
This looks like it's for a different steam curator than the one in op's screenshot. Still probably a tos violation ofc
"Immigration is woke but also native people are woke," and the rest of the list is similarly frothing and delusional. They struggle to finish a sentence without adding a hard R.
Looks like it's time to report bomb.
Its even funnier that they coopted "woke" as a negative term in the first place. Just blatantly telling on themselves.
Yeah it is. I was around when woke first started making its rounds and it was used to describe people who were aware of social injustice against them, mostly black people at the time. I’m not surprised that the word made it into common use, just surprised at the audacity of people using it as a strong negative against equality and inclusion.
About 100 years ago the word was intellectuals.
Just say you don’t like gay people
Gay people exist.
BippinThatBop took that personally.
The curator has a review for Summer House that mentions a white kid sitting with a black kid and labels it "subtle pro-DEI messaging". I didn't know that black people being included in things makes it woke.
Here's a hint dude: there's politics in everything even if it's not the main theme. If you don't like it, it's probably because you don't like the politics on display.
You treat people existing as political.
Is a gay couple in a movie political?
Why isn't a straight couple political?
Ok, let's try this:
Name a piece of media. Any media. Book, film, TV show, game, etc.
The lion, the witch, and the caucasity of this bitch (Hint: You need to be quite privileged to unironically think like that.)
Minorities existing should not be political.
Politics refers to the systems we create to form and guide the shape of society. Every aspect of existence in society is, by definition, political.
Yeah except in the post they're trying to argue that LGBTQ people existing in media is woke. News flash LGBTQ people exist and want options in their media to be able to reflect who they are whether that's through more character customization options or stories that include LGBTQ characters. That shouldn't be political and at least for some of those things I don't see why gamers complain like character creation stuff it is literally just giving you more options when you make a character.
The existence of queer and non-white people is not leftist, it's objective, observable reality, free of political bias.
There's no such thing as objective reality. Our existence as trans people is transgressive, implicitly deconstructing white supremacist consensus reality. Trans people are destroying reality 🏳️⚧️ http://soulism.net
is this the wrong time to tell you about white supremacist trans people? do trans persons challenge gender norms? yes. do they challenge racial prejudice? not really. are the two often conflated because the largest supremacist group is hella transphobic, yes.
Your statement is self contradictory. If Reality is Objective, then it can't be destroyed.
Is it incessant virtue signaling for your gay son to show up with his boyfriend to dinner?
As a millennial, there were very few games where I wasn’t shuffled into an obligatory straight romance. The only real options were Fable and The Sims. I was desperate enough that I learned to program and mod video games solely to make gay options. Swapped out models, or pain stakingly changed every single “sex == 1” conditional.
I can’t really think of any big games that force you to be gay.
Did one of your relatives talk too much during sportsball?
Tofay i learned that the existence of Women, Queer People and Non-whites is political.
Conservatives are using political power to oppress and exterminate such people, so they've made it political.
The question now is "what is the appropriate response to those who oppress and exterminate the vulnerable?" Historically, the answer has always involved the use of deadly force.
It's not a virtue if it's just normal. Trying to repress normal things and pretend they don't exist, and then getting mad anytime you still manage to see them is just a way of life that is going to lead to constantly being angry.
Translation: including anybody who differs from you in any way.
Coward.
It's interesting because your examples are things that are absolutely crammed with right wing stuff - all that pro-war military pageantry and flag shagging, a lot of countries have it in degrees but America is intense for it. The right wingers in the sport crowds are loudly political too, and notoriously so at Thanksgiving... and of course capitalism has just totally dominated all these things, superbowl is an advert and merchandising business that has a game go on between the main sponsorship events.
What you're really talking about is that those capitalists making adverts are trying to appeal to modern demographics and audiences that are no longer impressed by the bland fantasy vision of america which old propaganda relied upon.
Nope woke means being aware of systemic injustices. What you describe is people with a saviour complex being ineffective, annoying, failures at praxis. Alternatively, rightoid snowflakes being triggered by being reminded that people different from them exist. The Acolyte is a nice recent example: It's no Andor but definitely not a bad show, by recent Star Wars standards definitely one of the good ones. Yet a whole mob of people got triggered because, what, I don't even get it. And before anyone says "It breaks with canon" no it fucking doesn't.
Conveniently everything is categorized as "white or political," "cishet or political," "Christian or political," so everyone you don't want to listen to will have to shut up.
Find me a subject that isn't at all political and you'll have a very dull subject that has zero potential to affect anyone in any way.
No, woke means calling out systemic racism and fighting back against it.
What YOU call “woke” is “my fee fees hurt when straight white man not world savior”
You pathetic shit.
Either that or you're fine with people not being able to have a voice as long as you have.
You sound like an incel who'd vote RP. Back to the basement with you.
Funny, I always remember is the cranky old men bring up politics during Thanksgiving dinner. I'll take your word on the movies though. I gave up watching them because I started noticing how conservative movies are. Much easier to find an environmentalist villain then a environmentalist hero.