688
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] uriel238 93 points 5 months ago

Whenever essential functions (e.g. access) are powered, they're supposed to have manual overrides. I'm pretty sure this is a regulatory requirement even here in the States where we're stupid and regulatory agencies are mostly captured.

So WTF happened, Tesla? Where's the manual override for when the battery fails?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago
[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 39 points 5 months ago

That's for if you're inside, a mechanical access has to exist on the outside as well, no?

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 46 points 5 months ago

No. You just need to be able to exit without power. Getting back in mechanically isn't a requirement.

It should be, but it's not.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

Damn, even fighter jets have an external override. They're even labeled for rescue workers.

[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 17 points 5 months ago

I don't know who Jettison Canopy is but I hope he's around when you need to do this.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago

A car window is a lot easier to shatter than a fighter jet canopy.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Not these Teslas, from what I understand. The type of glass they use is EXTREMELY resistant to shattering.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻

[-] DBNinja@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

You can also "jump" the car to open it via a 12V access port in the front.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, doesn't help much in case of actual emergency does it?

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Then break the fucking window if it's an actual emergency.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

They did

The child was safely removed from the car after firefighters used an ax to smash through a window

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I know.

My response was to the previous comment.

In a non Tesla, if someone is locked in a car, what happens? There isn't some secret "let me in" button. You just break a window. This is a dumb story.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago

If someone is locked in your car and you're the owner you simply use the key and open the door, no need to break anything, except in a Tesla.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Some cars aren't quite that simple, on newer models they're hiding the keyhole on the bottom side of the handle behind a cover. But usually those models won't lock with the keys inside the car

[-] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

My keyfob battery was dead and I couldn’t use the hidden keyhole to unlock it. I watched a video on YouTube but I still wasn’t able to make it work. It wasn’t an emergency but I would just break the glass if it was one.

[-] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Unless your keys get locked inside too

[-] skulblaka@startrek.website 17 points 5 months ago

I mean, presumably if I'm standing outside my car with a key, I just unlock the door and open it. Can't do that with a dead tesla.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah......because breaking the window as your first option in an emergancy is a GREAT idea. No need for a manual handle with a key, right? What a stupid idea that would be.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 5 months ago

It's not your first option in an emergency. Normally you just open the door. Breaking the glass is several layers of things-not-working deep.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

So breaking the glass as the second step isn't a good option.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that's much quicker than just unlocking the door with your fucking key, right?

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Agree. The only worry is the flying glass might hurt the child.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Tempered glass is designed to not be sharp when broken. But they break a window furthest from the person inside to limit damage.

They can also use some tools to remove the window in mostly one piece after cracking it, rather than smashing it and sending glass flying.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Tempered glass is still sharp but it breaks into tiny pieces so it can't cut deeply.

[-] DBNinja@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I don't disagree there!

[-] Xtallll 22 points 5 months ago

Those are inside the car, doesn't help if there's a toddler stuck in the car.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

As discussed in the article, even.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

When has it ever been difficult to get out of a car?? Why does this page exist??

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

It's basic safety for industrial plants to designate powered equipment as "fail open" or "fail closed" or on/off. It's shocking that this wasn't applied to Tesla cars.

We really need an industry that performs industrial grade HAZOPs on consumer products and publishes a report for everyone to see.

this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2024
688 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

59974 readers
2173 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS