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OpenAI's Mira Murati: "some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place" And you stole everything from creative people who provided free texts, images, forum answers, etc. To date, your company has refused to acknowledge any credit. Rich people truly live in their bubble and have zero sympathy for fellow human or their livelihood.

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thanks. I hate deliberately out of context quotes. Watching the entire interview is actually very interesting. Lots to agree and disagree with here without having to... you know, make things up.

On the jobs situation she later mentions that "the weigth of how many jobs are created, how many jobs are changed, how many jobs are destroyed, I don't know. I don't think anybody knows(...), because it's not been rigorously studied, and I really think it should be". That also comes after a comment about how jobs that are "entirely repetitive" (she repeats that multiple times) may be removed, but she clarifies that she means jobs where the human element "isn't advancing anything", which I think puts the creative jobs quote in context as well. I like how the intervewer immediately goes to "maybe we can cut QA" and you can see in her face that she goes "yeah, no, I'm gonna need those" before going for a compromise answer.

I don't agree with the perspective she puts forward about how the tools are used, I think she's being disingenuous about the long term impact and especially about the regulations and what they do to their competitors. But latching onto this out of context is missing the point.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

That all makes sense. Thanks! I was tempted to watch the whole interview but realised I didn't actually care that much. I figured something like what you describe was where she was going just from the clip I watched, and of course it was obvious that rage baiting was going on here.

And exactly what you said ... many listening to the full interview will probably think she, and therefore AI generally, is actually "right" and will be valuable ... except for all the shitty ways it's gonna be used by corporations and all of the shitty and presumptive things OpenAI and others will do to win their new platform war.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think there's plenty of rightful criticism to the things she actually says, and plenty of things she says I wouldn't take at face value because they're effectively token corporate actions to dismiss genuine concerns.

She actually gets asked in the Q&A about the IP rights of creators included in training data, and she talks about some ideas to calculate contributions from people and compensate for them, but it's all clearly not a priority and not a full solution. I'm not gonna get into my personal proposals for any of that, but I certainly don't think they're thinking about it the right way.

Also, if you REALLY want a chilling thing she says, go find the part where she says they may eventually allow people to customize the moral and political views of their chatbots on top of a standard framework, and she specifically mentions allowing churches to do that. That may be the most actually dystopian concept I've heard come out of this corner of the techbrosphere so far, even with all the caveats about locking down a common baseline of values she mentions.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Also, if you REALLY want a chilling thing she says, go find the part where she says they may eventually allow people to customize the moral and political views of their chatbots on top of a standard framework, and she specifically mentions allowing churches to do that.

eeeesh.

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