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[-] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This why statistics are so frustrating you can make them say anything.

[-] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Well, not anything... It's pretty recognized that in most cases, median provides a more realistic and representative measure than average for this very reason (outliers).

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The median is an average. It's less susceptible to skew than the mean, the most commonly used average.

[-] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ok, I see what you mean. In my education, average and mean we're used interchangeably.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

median provides a more realistic and representative measure than average for this very reason (outliers).

Must be a hell of a lot of people earning SO much less than the median wage if the average wage excluding only 1000 out of ~335m is already significantly lower..

[-] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't be surprised if half of Americans earned less than the median.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

The average annual salary in Canada in 2021 was $59,300

The median income in Canada is $68,400, after taxes, according to Statistics Canada's income survey (2021)

Huh.. seems backwards in Canada's case....

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Salary and income are not necessarily the same thing.

Most people's incomes are not salaries, I'd think.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.dundaslife.com/blog/average-income-in-canada#toc-average-canadian-household-income-for-2024

This website seems to use salary and income interchangeably as if they were the same thing.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I lament statements like this because I work with statistics and you can't just make them say anything. I hate that people use this to dismiss real facts.

You always have to look at the distribution, which is hard to do well. Simple statistics and averages hide so much detail, it's often ineptitude more than outright deceit.

[-] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

This is why words are so frustrating, you can make them say anything.

[-] Carnelian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is why saying is so wordy, because you can anything make you want

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Why waste time say lot word when few do trick?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why -time by say +word? Punct +better.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

+word → -time; punct > word

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