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Don't let history repeat itself!
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Don't try to suggest that the anti fascists of today even remotely resemble the men that landed on those beaches, my grandad being one of them.
Some of them may have only been teenagers but they certainly weren't slacktivists too scared to show their fucking faces.
Edit: Okay, apparently not praising antifa as war heroes makes me a fascist. Thanks for the enlightening arguments, everyone.
yeah suck it.
Like me, a former service member, Antifa today doesn't need to be drafted to do the right thing. You don't get to stand on the back of a family member who did to pretend you have some moral high ground.
I'm standing on nobody's back or claiming to have any kind of moral high ground. Merely stating that antifa haven't done enough so far towards their goal and thinking that maybe comparing them to people who died (or could have died) in combat is quite insulting.
You sure af are. You cited a family members service to add credence to your statement.
Bruh you don't know up from down in terms of what you are talking about. You should just stop.
I've heard numerous firsthand accounts of what it was like on those beaches, I've been to protests and I've been pepper sprayed before. They're far from the same thing. I'm just working with the information that I personally have. If you think that the two are in fact comparable, I'd like to hear your reasoning.
If I "don't know up from down" in terms of what I'm talking about would you like to elaborate instead of just telling me to stop?
Have you actually served?
No?
Ok. We're done.
I never said I didn't serve and how would that matter exactly? Have you actually served fighting against fascism? Did you serve in WW2? You may have seen some shit but surely you wouldn't like protesters being awarded with the same kind of reverence a soldier gets?
If some of these protesters haven't served maybe they should shut up too because they don't seem to know anything. You're just using your service to lend credence to your non-argument.
I don't think it's proper to equate protestors with war heroes and I'm wrong because you've served. Okay, I'm convinced.
You do realize stealth ops and misdirection were significant parts of operation overlord right?
IE, "not showing their faces"
Fair point but it's barely the same thing. One's for the greater good and one's for oneself.
Oh, look... a fascist sympathizer!
Don't be ridiculous. Pointing out that current efforts at stamping out facism by antifa are obviously not working and resenting the comparison between them and men who risked their lives and died fighting it does not make me a fascist sympathiser.
Fuck me for having the wrong opinion and seeing room for improvement.
So far, antifa is the only thing that has had any effect on the fascists, genius - you and your liberal brethren, on the other hand, have done nothing but vote Wall Street liberals into power that "reaches across the aisle" to the fascists before you're even done celebrating their wins.
Oh yeah? What about the ones who died propping up fascist regimes in Korea and Vietnam? Were they (supposedly) "antifascists," too? Or where they just men who, like their counterparts in WW2, were ordered to "defend 'Murica" before being sicced on whoever posed an obstacle to "manifest destiny"?
But don't worry about any of this, liberal... you'll soon get your chance to show antifa how you can fight fascism so much better than they can soon enough - that is, if you haven't decided to put your head down and co-operate with the fascists like most of your liberal fellow-travellers inevitably will.
I like how you instantly assume I'm an American just how you instantly assume I'm some kind of fascist because I think equating antifa with war heroes is distasteful.
"Oh yeah? What about the ones who died propping up fascist regimes in Korea and Vietnam?"
I was talking about those who were landing on the beaches and by extension the allies of WW2 in general, as was the OP image. You can't just try to expand the scope of what I said to try to make it sound like I praise all dead soldiers regardless of the cause. We were talking about fighting against fascism.
I don't give a fuck where you're from.
Yeah, I agree... equating people who voluntary stand up to fascists with those who has to be ordered to do so is extremely distasteful.
Oh but I can, and I did - you want to pretend that the US military that particpated in WW2 is (somehow) completely unrelated to the US military that waged dirty mass-murder campaigns on the 3rd world both before and after WW2.
Yeah... no. I don't think so.
You mean that thing you haven't done a shred of so far?
Not everyone was drafted, you bell end. Plenty were there because they signed up.
I'm not bothered about what the US military has or hasn't done, frankly. I wasn't talking about the whole history of war, just that particular war and the alies, specifically.
And how do you know I've done nothing to fight fascism, anyway?
Stop being a sourpuss.
Your vapid ideology gave me a clue, liberal.
Okay.
The big difference between modern anti fascists and latter day anti fascists was Roosevelt's reimagined Democratic party.
If Prescott Bush or Hoover still held the White House in 1941, there's a good chance America would have been an Axis Power.
Slacktivism is when you're doing the yeoman's work of community organizing behind the scenes.
Activism is when you've got a heavily corporate sponsored YouTube channel, you're doing cable news speaking circuits, and you're telling college grads to get back in the kitchen during commencement ceremonies.
Hey now, pointing out the false equivalence between "antifa" and real anti-fascists makes you a fascist, doncha know.
Apparently so.