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What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world's main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It's literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I'm genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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[-] protist@mander.xyz 117 points 5 months ago

There is no coherent ideology over there besides "America/the West/capitalism should be destroyed." Dudes would rather Pol Pot be in charge than Joe Biden.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 66 points 5 months ago

Last part is true and even more insane/sad because these people are all terminally online gossip mongers that Pol Pot would have immediately executed.

You own a computer? You don't work in the fields? You wear glasses?

Yep, literally executed.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 5 months ago

Yeah, pretty much. I mean, my estimate in the modern day would be that "ACAB I saw a bad video on Youtube, we need communism" would turn into "oh my god what the FUCK they literally came in my house because I said the wrong thing online and SLAMMED ME ON THE GROUND and now they're NOT LETTING ME OUT OF PRISON this is literally SO BAD LIKE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS".

But yeah, the general principle that they don't have any degree of connection to reality with what they're saying, I'll agree with you on.

[-] Sootius@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

This is satire, right? Nobody over there glorifies or likes Pol Pot.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 27 points 5 months ago

Not even remotely satire, and you might notice I never said anyone over there "glorified or likes Pol Pot." Back in my early Lemmy days I spent way too much time on Hexbear trying to understand, and repeatedly was told that any communist dictator, no matter how heinous, from any time in history would be preferable to any US president. They twisted in knots denying any atrocities by communists while at it. They were clear they don't particularly like Putin, Xi, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc, but would prefer their leadership in every case over US leadership

[-] Sootius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

This is just.. not representative of any opinion on Hexbear in it's entire history. But feel free to lie.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Lmao hello from the future

Seethe about it

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 36 points 5 months ago

More than once I have seen the same person express both "America is evil and the whole system needs to be destroyed" and also "Joe Biden is bad for the country and I can't support him", and asked the person, well if you think America is bad and Biden is harming the country, doesn't that mean you should support him being in charge, so he can do more damage to this evil thing?

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

No, they know that Donald is worse for the country. They want Donald in there so America collapses faster. They want China and Russia to expand.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 months ago

I don't even think they are accelerationists at this point. I think they are all either information warfare operatives or useful idiots. The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

information warfare operatives or useful idiots.

The latter. The former are likely all deployed on social media sites with a bigger market share than the fediverse.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 5 months ago

The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.

Source? I wanna see their exact words

[-] Sootius@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Source: No source, because all this shit is always made the fuck up.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 12 points 5 months ago

Boy that would sure be convenient for your narrative wouldn't it?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

And what's the complete lack of a source for a notable claim do to yours, lol?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Which narrative have I brought to this thread?

All I did was laugh at your limp-wristed grasp on reality. Your existence is all the evidence I need, player.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

"It's not a narrative when I do it, reeeee"

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Still waiting for you to quote "my narrative" in this thread. It's been several days lmao

Go figure you would try to break reality down into a binary system of "people who are correct" and "my absolute enemy because they pushed back on my claims".

Grow up, get over yourself, drink some water and touch grass you absolute dolt.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

Bro doesn't even know what a narrative is ๐Ÿ’€

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago

It won't be admitting shit. They're a professional, damnit.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I would not be surprised in the slightest.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 24 points 5 months ago

And Hexbear gets really awkward when you call them out on wanting the Donald.

[-] Sootius@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

How so? Because they don't want Donald Trump either.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 5 months ago

The worst I've seen them say is that Trump is as bad as Biden.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

I've seen people claim Trump is better for Palestine.

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