950
Full points for confidence
(lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2024
950 points (100.0% liked)
People Twitter
5258 readers
696 users here now
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
RULES:
- Mark NSFW content.
- No doxxing people.
- Must be a tweet or similar
- No bullying or international politcs
- Be excellent to each other.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I need something clarified by someone who doesn't go to a chiropractor and never has.
I've heard it's all bullshit from multiple sources over the years. I've heard they aren't even doctors most of the time and that there's no empirical evidence that supports chiropractic practitioners at all.
Every attempt to research this is met with thousands of results from low quality sources all singing its praise.
So is it bullshit?
It's bullshit.
It was invented in 1895 by a guy who thought health issues were due to nerves not trasmitting enough energy in the body, which could be fixed by his new fangled snake oil medicine.
"A subluxatrd vertebra is the cause of 95 percent of all diseases, the other 5 percent is caused by displaced joints other than those in the vertabral column"
I'm an osteopathic medical student and I will tell you that chiropractic practice is all bullshit. It was invented by a guy who claims he got the information from ghosts, and their education doesn't cover a fraction of what gets covered in nursing school, let alone medical school.
If you're interested in manipulative treatment, look for an osteopathic physician because our training is everything that MDs do plus the osteopathic manipulative medicine that's based on studies of anatomy and clinical trials.
Chiropractors are the ones that paralyze people and kill them by dissecting vertebral arteries. At best, their treatment will do nothing to help and just make crunchy noises, at worst, their techniques can kill you.
What is your opinion of Dr. Beau Hightower?
It was very hard to tell whether or not his youtube channel is satire, but given the websites and email address listed, I think this person that appends their name with alphabet soup is probably taking themselves at least somewhat seriously. I have serious concerns about his professionalism just based on the video titles, categories, and thumbnails.
Yes. If you want an expensive massage that makes you feel better, go for a tuggy at the local knocking shop.
Why would somebody who's never been to a chiropractor be the best person to ask whether or not it's bullshit? If this is how you find out if something is true, you're gonna be in for a rude awakening, and probably sooner than later.
Because of confirmation bias.
If everyone who goes to a chiropractor says it's good but all evidence says otherwise then I need an outside opinion without the confirmation bias.
Being free from confirmation bias doesn't make you an expert, though. Their opinion could be influenced based on something they heard or all kinds of other things that have no bearing on whether or not it's true.
Yeah I worded it wrong initially.
Someone who's gone and didn't say it was good would still be able to give me a better frame of reference.
I’ve gone once due to hip pain. He cracked my back then went through some range of motion stretches with my leg, basically the same shit I did before football practice every day. Go to a doc or physical trainer in sports medicine, chiros are a waste of money and potentially dangerous.
That would be me. My parents took me to a chiropractor as a kid, but I stopped going in my teens, and now consider it bullshit.
There's a few odd cases of back pain where manipulating the spine can work. Some of this got integrated into mainstream physical therapy. If it stopped there, then there wouldn't be a problem, but chiropractors claim they can heal just about anything by manipulating the spine. Any time you see someone claiming their one weird trick can cure anything from neck pain to the common cold, you should be very, very skeptical. It's on them to prove that, and they have not proved that after more than a century.
I think it was just bad wording
Source I'm dyslexic and didn't notice anything wrong lmao
Depends, some will message you, if you're there for muscle related therapy or some kind of physical therapy they do, that's pretty reasonably effective, but popping your bones is a very temporary kind of relief, and sometimes it can cause major health problems. It's a lot of risk for a half hour of relief a Tylenol might have equally helped with.
I was recently reading a blog post by a generalist doctor (Baptiste Beaulieu). His kid, a baby (so no possible placebo effect, right?), was having trouble sleeping. His companion not being a doctor, wanted to try a baby chiropractor. Needless to say, he was very dubious about the whole thing, but nothing in his medical training was helping.
Twice they went and twice the chiropractor essentially lightly touched the baby here and there and done (no cracking anything!). Yet for months afterwards the baby would sleep soundly.
There are countless such anecdotes, but rarely anything scientifically reproducible. Ie, it's that baby chiropractor who's doing it. And he can't tell what exactly he did, so that BB could reproduce the effect, despite being a trained doctor.
It's as fascinating as it is infuriating for people who've dedicated their lives to studying medecine (amongst them, my father and my wife).
These are called coincidences. If you take the baby to the chiropractor and the baby suddenly gets well, of course you're going to talk about it! That doesn't mean that the chiropractor had anything to do with it. What's the chiropractor's success/failure ratio?
Also, the idea of a "baby chiropractor" squicks me out. Maybe this one only lightly touched the baby, but I've heard horror stories about them harming babies. People think "Oh, the worst that can happen is that nothing changes." No, the chiropractor can make things worse.
Squicks. This is a new word, but I approve.
If it was months it could be that it would've gone away in that time anyway. Our baby had colic for four months and for couple months she did go to baby massage or some other quack doctor (mother's father insisted and paid so what the hell..) and the mother still believes it helped because of that... I'm sure it didn't do shit and it would've gotten better anyway in that time frame.
maybe the baby wasn't getting hugged enough