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xkcd #2940: Modes of Transportation

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Explain xkcd #2940

Title Text:

My bold criticism might anger the hot air balloon people, which would be a real concern if any of them lived along a very narrow line directly upwind of me.

alt-text:A chart that categorizes various modes of transportation based on their practicality and danger level:

Zone of Practicality:

  • Trains
  • Airliners
  • Boats
  • Walking
  • Cars
  • Scooters
  • Bicycles

Zone of Specialty and Recreational Vehicles:

  • Motorcycles
  • Helicopters
  • Light aircraft
  • Go karts
  • Skateboards
  • Rollerblades
  • Skis
  • Unicycles
  • Sleds
  • Bumper cars

?????:

  • Hot air balloons

“Hot air balloons are the optimal mode of transportation, if your optimization algorithm has a sign error.”

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[-] Michal@programming.dev 97 points 5 months ago

I cant believe bicycles and scooters are perceived as more dangerous than cars. They're slower, offer better visibility, and kill way less people.

[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 5 months ago

Less dangerous to others, but more dangerous to the users themselves, I suppose.

[-] onion@feddit.de 99 points 5 months ago
[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 5 months ago

Not only. I live in Norway, where pedestrians have right of way and drivers are extremely careful. Discounting the risk from cars, there's still more personal danger to users of scooters as opposed to cars. If you have an accident on a scooter, you'll get scrapes, bruises, broken bones. As compared to a car, where unless you've really screwed up, you're unlikely to take any injuries at all.

Source: scooter user who HAS broken bones

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

The chart needs a third dimension: danger to you, danger to others, and convenience for travel.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Driving a car makes it more likely for your species to go extinct. Infinitely more dangerous than a bicycle.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

your beef is with internal combustion engine, not with the car.

[-] Jentu 2 points 5 months ago

Microplastics from heavy vehicles scrubbing away their tires is a bigger issue than tailpipe emissions, which is why tailpipe emissions are the only thing focused on with regards to regulatory standards. Can’t have people thinking BEVs are similar/worse for the environment than a small car.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

ok, that's fair, never thought of that...

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Shame this comic doesn't draw a distinction

[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

Replace every single ICE with a BEV. Still plenty of beef.

[-] brettvitaz@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

I just saw a pedestrian get hit by a person on a bike and end up with a concussion. Bicyclists don’t give a fuck about others

[-] ealoe@ani.social 29 points 5 months ago

Hit a pothole going 25mph in your car. Hit the same pothole going 25mph on your scooter. I'll come visit you in the hospital after the scooter one and we can talk about how cars are obviously safer.

I ride an electric scooter, all it takes is one crack in the road that I'm less than prepared for and I'm going down hard.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 39 points 5 months ago

I wonder what kind of scooter most people pictured when reading the comic

[-] ealoe@ani.social 10 points 5 months ago

That is a good point, mine is the second variety, electric one similar to the ones you see littering any major Urban area waiting to be rented. Although even the largest scooter is still far less safe over a pothole or around a rainy curve than a car, typical accident in the car you mess up the car and get a bruise from the airbag, but a typical scooter accident can be a lot more gnarly.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

I think most people in the USA refer to the third item as a moped, which only gives you two categories for scooter. Scooter and electric scooter, and then moped and electric moped.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

I own an electric scooter very similar to the second one pictured (minus the RGB) so that's what I was thinking of.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

The roads are shit here. So badly cracked that I vibrate violently when I try to ride my scooter over them at like 10km/h. And that's while dodging potholes.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 months ago

They are more dangerous exactly because of the existence of cars. Cars are a small fortress that makes others less safe while keeping its contents safer. Unless they hit another fortress.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That only makes sense if you cycle among cars, but that makes cars dangerous, not bikes. If you remove cars out of equation by cycling on pavement or cycle route, the danger is gone.

Pedestrians get hit by cars all the time yet walking is rated the safest.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

If you remove cars out of equation by cycling on pavement or cycle route, the danger is gone.

If you remove air out of the equation the danger of helicopters are gone

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

Pedestrians don't get hit by cars quite as much as cyclist, proportionally to their number, because cyclists are right in the street sharing the space with cars, trucks and buses. Cycling on the sidewalk is not allowed, and cycling lanes are often very dangerous. I understand that this chart is talking about danger to the passengers, not to others.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Even if there were no cars, I imagine biking is still less safe than walking. Just like running is less safe than walking.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

I'm almost afraid to ask where you've been walking.

[-] JayObey711@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Heeeeell no. I had I minor fall on a scooter last week. I slipped at medium speed because of an uneven wet floor. I'm still fucked up and can't walk properly

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A mere fender bender on a car might be a life or death situation if you're riding a motorcycle.

Hmm. It seems that Sync posted my draft comment 😔

[-] Michal@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

Well try getting hit by a car while walking. According to this xkcd you'll be the safest.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

kill way less people

I believe the danger axis is about danger to the passengers, not others

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